Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'syntax': 0.04; 'assignment': 0.07; 'class,': 0.07; 'nicely': 0.07; 'consistency': 0.09; 'inserted': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'assignments': 0.16; 'c/c++': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'suggestion.': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'appears': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'source': 0.25; 'suggested': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'testing': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'end,': 0.31; 'equality': 0.31; 'gary': 0.31; 'occurs': 0.31; 'post.': 0.31; 'workaround': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'style': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'whilst': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'follows:': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'liked': 0.60; 'john': 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'advantages': 0.68; 'apart': 0.72; "'with'": 0.84; 'avoids': 0.84; 'sorry.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Ifs and assignments Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 01:20:51 +0000 References: <52C59FF6.5000607@allsup.co> <52C5BD90.9020609@islandtraining.com> <52C5DDA6.5090207@allsup.co> <52C60AF6.8060004@islandtraining.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-28-22.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <52C60AF6.8060004@islandtraining.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388712057 news.xs4all.nl 2837 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42529 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63017 On 03/01/2014 00:57, Gary Herron wrote: > On 01/02/2014 01:44 PM, John Allsup wrote: >> The point of my original post was that, whilst C's >> if( x = 2 ) { do something } >> and >> if( x == 2 ) { do something } >> are easy to confuse, and a source of bugs, having a construct like >> follows: >> >> if x == 2: >> do something # what happens at present >> if testFunc() as x: >> do something with x >> >> using the 'as' syntax that appears with 'with' and 'except', would allow >> for the advantages of C style assignments in conditionals but without >> the easy confusion, since here the syntax is significantly different >> between assignment and equality testing (rather than a character apart >> as happens with C). >> >> This occurs further down in my original post (past the point where you >> inserted your reply). >> >> Another post suggested a workaround by defining a 'pocket' class, for >> which I am grateful. >> >> John > > Sorry. I shot off my answer before reading the whole post. That's > never a good idea. > > > After reading to the end, I rather like your suggestion. It works well > in your example, , nicely avoids the C/C++ trap, and has some > consistency with other parts of Python. > > Gary Herron > > I liked the look of this as well. It ought to go to python ideas, or has it been suggested there in the past? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence