Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'heavily': 0.04; 'float': 0.07; 'suppose': 0.07; '*args,': 0.09; 'exception.': 0.09; 'false.': 0.09; 'propagate': 0.09; 'true)': 0.09; 'variant': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; "(i'm": 0.16; '**kwargs):': 0.16; '__new__': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'lower-case': 0.16; 'name):': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'basically': 0.19; 'code,': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'aspect': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'spirit': 0.31; "they'll": 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'call.': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'info': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'crazy': 0.36; 'false': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'rather': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'applicable': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'skip:t 30': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'details.': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'production': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'wish': 0.70; 'online': 0.71; 'now:': 0.74; 'disclosure,': 0.75; 'atomic': 0.84; 'calls,': 0.84; 'can...': 0.84; 'examples.': 0.84; 'x):': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=c2NoU8gN/rls79Z7hBPokKnSRX7KY1LgAfMgi+KWtmM=; b=0812AyaBcalTwIIHJ4PahFhym3u5B0AKKqJJSbXwrf4xx+i0WtZJZgpRVULmdvG86K YvKaVpbKBJzWc2rgqXNM98LvTa9i6Fb0zkFjhK7ikrtf2bk7gifyj/N6At/7pBpI7j9r hh16tqdlod+S/SCst+FL+mQ5ZGhSyO6E6gOG/+5cDVo18CIWDk61tp0soPm3+C7NtGXw qW6ATKvAXApv+j7Zeq9wsX/jbXjVZmMaX795PAFHURx9Ja8MxoynKulh7V7g4zJHneiN 4TPBnXALL1U9b0sFqJ8anv+4UZJgVzaG8CdQzshu2LD1QvMZSXTOpwUJgqr3Og9siMOF ztHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.66.234 with SMTP id i10mr48759472pat.127.1388707565876; Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:06:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52C59FF6.5000607@allsup.co> <52C5BD90.9020609@islandtraining.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:06:05 +1100 Subject: Re: Ifs and assignments From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388708064 news.xs4all.nl 2910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53341 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:63012 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > The most common place I wish for an atomic "test and assign" is with > regexes, as in your examples. This would be so much nicer than what we > have to do now: > > if re.match(string) as m: > print m.group(0) Here's a crazy idea. Suppose we have a "sticky falseness" that can quietly propagate through an expression the way a NaN can... then we could just float that right through the .group() call. class truth: def __new__(cls, x): if x: return x return object.__new__(cls) def __bool__(self): return False def __getattr__(self, name): return self def __call__(self, *args, **kwargs): return self def __repr__(self): return repr(False) Pass any object through truth() and it'll either stay the same (if it's true) or become this object (if it's false). You can then carry on with other method calls, and they'll all happily return false. result = ( truth(re1.match(string)).group(0) or truth(re2.match(string)).group(0) or truth(re3.match(string)).group(0) or default_value ) (I'm not sure if I'm using __new__ correctly; I've never actually done it in production code, and the info I found online was mainly Py2 examples. Should that be done with super(), or is that applicable only once there's an actual instance with a real MRO?) I've given the class a lower-case first letter as I'm basically using this as a function. If this were ever to be considered for the standard library I would expect to see that aspect of it heavily bikeshedded, so I'm not too concerned about the details. In a spirit of full disclosure, I must confess that the idea came from Pike, where there's a variant member-lookup operator that will happily return false from false rather than throwing an exception. :) ChrisA