Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!news.albasani.net!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'dst': 0.07; 'override': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; '(aka': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'least)': 0.09; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; '(at': 0.13; 'cc:addr:lac': 0.16; 'cc:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'cc:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'entries.': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'message- id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'peters': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; "time'": 0.16; 'towns': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'cc:2**2': 0.20; 'sep': 0.22; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.22; 'trying': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'tim': 0.24; '(e.g.': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; '-0500,': 0.29; 'received:se': 0.29; 'print': 0.30; 'work.': 0.30; 'law.': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'rules': 0.31; 'supposed': 0.31; 'problem': 0.33; 'covered': 0.34; 'schedule': 0.34; 'handle': 0.34; 'done': 0.35; 'skip:> 10': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'mean': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'movement': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'hours': 0.65; 'subject:there': 0.66; 'soul': 0.72; "'we": 0.84; 'drinking': 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'matthews': 0.84; 'subject:any': 0.84; 'western': 0.89; 'railway': 0.91; 'subject:Are': 0.95 To: Tim Peters cc: Laura Creighton , Python-List , datetime-sig , lac@openend.se From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: [Datetime-SIG] Are there any "correct" implementations of tzinfo? In-reply-to: References: <1442085362.324875.381920729.5E7A6DCE@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201509131224.t8DCOXHO004891@fido.openend.se> Comments: In-reply-to Tim Peters message dated "Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:27:30 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25686.1442160007.1@fido> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:00:07 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [82.96.5.2]); Sun, 13 Sep 2015 18:00:09 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442160018 news.xs4all.nl 23865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57117 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96508 In a message of Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:27:30 -0500, Tim Peters writes: >Hi, Laura! By "zoneinfo" here, we mean the IANA (aka "Olson") time >zone database, which is ubiquitous on (at least) Linux: > > https://www.iana.org/time-zones > >So "will a wrapping of zoneinfo handle XYZ?" isn't so much a question >about the wrapping as about what's in the IANA database. Then we had better be able to override it when it is wrong. >Best guess is that Creighton's rules are covered by that database's >America/Winnipeg entries. ># Saskatchewan ># Other western towns (e.g. Lloydminster) are like Edmonton. ># Matthews and Vincent (1998) write that Denare Beach and Creighton ># are like Winnipeg, in violation of Saskatchewan law. I think that this will work. Creighton is just across the border from Flin Flan, Manitoba. Indeed I think the problem of 'drunken people from Manitoba trying to get one hours more drinking done and being a menace on the highway' may have fueled the 'we are going to have DST in violation of the law' movement in Creighton. But I am not sure how it is that a poor soul who just wants to print a railway schedule 'in local time' is supposed to know that Creighton is using Winnipeg time. Laura