Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'output': 0.05; 'subsequent': 0.05; '(using': 0.07; 'think,': 0.07; 'cookie': 0.09; 'pages.': 0.09; 'similar,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'changes': 0.15; '(9,': 0.16; '(note': 0.16; 'chrome,': 0.16; 'cookies,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'index.html': 0.16; 'subject: ?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'load': 0.23; 'sort': 0.25; 'script': 0.25; 'pass': 0.26; 'required.': 0.27; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'on,': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'xml': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'too.': 0.31; 'cgi': 0.31; 'dom': 0.31; 'embed': 0.31; 'end,': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'handled': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'plain': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'interact': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'ajax': 0.38; 'checks': 0.38; 'handle': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'full': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'browser': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'information': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'request.': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; 'jul': 0.74; 'differences,': 0.84; 'easier,': 0.84; 'explorer': 0.84; 'geo': 0.84; 'geolocation': 0.84; 'that),': 0.91; 'outcome': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=j6pvorOU1bX1JeWIR2yoX5tee38KogZN5x5xcyxf7yY=; b=J4Jxp4jhty27E5FAZyZDREI6oR857cPons1uu+ja5XHHrG/3IKJ2L58GZA4oi43C35 p5Uw3GDiZMtqETWNWngYWp/tWMtAYE0z8ivA+RvEKAK5iYdxfyaBqdt+a8UC85gQSC8V jrWPyu29Z7XvIazhs3WPzAgLtpRQHJUf8xPkL+ByIPJFM8ITpNaguMj4Ss+4p7774Lf9 u3MvdP5opr8U0VWCZsBwlxuRQluP1XkWvPYZqW3zB/C7Z3WaPZjm+UoRViycrUTiEMZG BhrpWldsSSYzBGtp6KfxM6cepaTx26LvXA674UMRU+CbM3kg4vtYlGQTtXI9PGfDxCq+ PXvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.214.105 with SMTP id nz9mr1219960vec.58.1374022716230; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22qbu8tkujd2s0e8ptvhmmt06nlfonh5p4@4ax.com> References: <22qbu8tkujd2s0e8ptvhmmt06nlfonh5p4@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:58:36 +1000 Subject: Re: GeoIP2 for retrieving city and region ? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1374022718 news.xs4all.nl 15904 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41053 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50767 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:43:35 +0300, ??????? declaimed > the following: > >> >>Lest say i embed inside my index.html the Javascript Geo Code. >> >>Is there a way to pass Javascript's outcome to my Python cgi script somehow? >> >>Can Javascript and Python Cgi somehow exchnage data? > > Using plain CGI is going to be painful -- since /everything/ is handled > a whole new page request. You would have to handle session cookies, etc. > > Your "index.html" would attempt to run the JavaScript (note that some > users may have JavaScript turned off -- how will you handle that), if it > gets information it would have to do a "GET index2.html?lat=xxx?long=yyy" > or something similar, which will result in a new page load on the user -- > hopefully with a cookie set so you know NOT to run the geolocation code on > subsequent pages. > > AJAX is a process to allow JavaScript on the browser to interact with a > server (using XML data structures), and likely use DOM operations in the > browser (and the last time I did something on this nature, I had to have > different code for Internet Explorer vs Firefox, and don't know of > Chrome/Opera share one of the others calls) to make changes on the web page > without doing a full submit/render operation AJAX changes the client end, but not the server (well, you might change the server's output format to make it easier, but it's not essential). So you *can* still use the CGI that you're familiar with. For reference, Firefox/Chrome/Opera/Safari are all pretty much identical for this sort of work; and the recent IEs (9, I think, and 10) are following them too. There are trivial differences, but for the basics, it's possible to support IE8+, Chrome, Firefox back as far as the Iceweasel from Debian Squeeze (I think that's Ff 3.5), and so on, all from the same code. No per-browser checks required. ChrisA