Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'deadlines': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'msi': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'so?': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; 'exe': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'files.': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'sorry,': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'rest': 0.29; 'compared': 0.30; 'purely': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'in.': 0.36; 'manager': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'recent': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'worry': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'account': 0.65; 'relatively': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'due': 0.66; 'introduction': 0.68; 'person,': 0.68; 'home': 0.69; 'sales': 0.69; 'click': 0.77; 'mistakes,': 0.84; 'wheel': 0.84; 'luxury': 0.91; 'health.': 0.93; 'lucky': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: [OT] Weaknesses of distro package managers - was Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 03:17:37 +0000 References: <20150316025301.GA94576@cskk.homeip.net> <873855tts4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <55068cb0$0$12923$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8761a1gxhq.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <550710DD.3030405@gmail.com> <55078762.6050809@gmail.com> <85twxks5x4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <550796CB.5040603@gmail.com> <550799DF.3010903@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-223-15.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <550799DF.3010903@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426562268 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42815 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87606 On 17/03/2015 03:05, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 03/16/2015 09:01 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Reading this makes me realise how lucky I am not having to worry about >> such issues. > > How so? > I don't work due to ill health. I use Python at home on Windows purely for my own needs which pip now covers, particularly given the relatively recent introduction of wheel files. For anything else download the msi or exe file and click to install. Seems like utopia compared to the real world that the rest of you have to live and work in. Sure I have to do some research first and maybe make mistakes, but I do have the luxury of time, no boss and no stupid deadlines set by some dumbo sales person, sorry, account manager :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence