Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'ide': 0.05; 'subject:editor': 0.05; 'interpreter': 0.07; 'received:edu.au': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'navigate': 0.09; 'pieces': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.14; '"running': 0.16; 'emacs': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'macosx': 0.16; 'message- id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174.133': 0.16; 'received:boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:harvey.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'shells': 0.16; 'subject:IDE': 0.16; 'workspace': 0.16; 'tend': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'programming': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'somebody': 0.25; 'preferred': 0.26; 'environment': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'sat,': 0.29; 'likes': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'selecting': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'with.': 0.33; 'using': 0.34; 'editor': 0.35; 'problem,': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'suggested': 0.35; 'subject:/': 0.36; 'missing': 0.36; 'received:au': 0.36; 'together.': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'run': 0.37; 'ways': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'though': 0.38; 'under': 0.39; 'subject:text': 0.40; 'received:202': 0.66; 'taylor': 0.68; 'become': 0.70; '(and,': 0.84; '*have*': 0.84; 'open,': 0.91; 'mouse': 0.93 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:31:09 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: Jorgen Grahn Subject: Re: Python IDE/text-editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) References: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1303072768 news.xs4all.nl 41110 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:44170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3428 On 16Apr2011 10:59, Jorgen Grahn wrote: | On Sat, 2011-04-16, Alec Taylor wrote: | > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python | > interpreter AND tabs... | > emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also, | > selecting text with my mouse is something I do often). | | Does it *have* to be tabs? Why? Both Emacs and Vim can have multiple | files open, and have various powerful ways to navigate between them. If I'm using tabs I tend to use a tabbed terminal emulator (Terminal or iTerm on MacOSX of late), and run vi and shells and python interpreters in various tabs. My normal programming workspace has two terminals side by side - an editing terminal and a "running stuff" terminal. I'm a vi/vim user, though that's just what my fingers are happy with. I'm not an IDE person - I just make my work environment from my preferred editor and some terminals (and, under X11, a good window manager - I like FVWM). That way one can pick the pieces one likes and use them together. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ The more I ride the more I notice and the more fearful I become - somebody on rec.moto