Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: <2013@jmunch.dk> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'languages.': 0.04; 'syntax': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'nested': 0.07; '"("': 0.09; 'anders': 0.09; 'default.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '""")': 0.16; '")"': 0.16; '"-"': 0.16; 'cool.': 0.16; 'ignoring': 0.16; 'irregular': 0.16; 'lexical': 0.16; 'literals': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'readable': 0.16; 'subject:expression': 0.16; 'subject:generator': 0.16; 'subject:regular': 0.16; 'terse': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'putting': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'quotes': 0.31; 'received:dk': 0.31; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'embedded': 0.39; 'skip:. 10': 0.39; 'structure': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'miss': 0.74; 'improvement,': 0.84; 'regexp': 0.84; 'skip:. 50': 0.84; 'skip:. 60': 0.84; 'write:': 0.91 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:38:35 +0200 From: "Anders J. Munch" <2013@jmunch.dk> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ben@benlast.com Subject: Re: grimace: a fluent regular expression generator in Python References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:48:50 +0200 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373978931 news.xs4all.nl 15913 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49173 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50743 Ben Last wrote: > north_american_number_re = (RE().start > > .literal('(').followed_by.exactly(3).digits.then.literal(')') > .then.one.literal("-").then.exactly(3).digits > > .then.one.dash.followed_by.exactly(4).digits.then.end > .as_string()) Very cool. It's a bit verbose for my taste, and I'm not sure how well it will cope with nested structure. Here's my take on what readable regexps could look like: north_american_number_re = RE.compile(r""" ^ "(" digit{3} ")" # And why shouldn't a regexp "-" digit{3} # include en embedded comment? "-" digit{4} $ """) The problem with Perl-style regexp notation isn't so much that it's terse - it's that the syntax is irregular (sic) and doesn't follow modern principles for lexical structure in computer languages. You can get a long way just by ignoring whitespace, putting literals in quotes and allowing embedded comments. Setting the re.VERBOSE flag achieves two out of three, so you can write: north_american_number_re = RE.compile(r""" ^ ( \d{3} ) # Definite improvement, though I really miss putting - \d{3} # literals in quotes. - \d{4} $ """) It's too bad re.VERBOSE isn't the default. regards, Anders