Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'suggest': 0.15; 'ben,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'written.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'fine,': 0.22; 'referring': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; '(which': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '14,': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'thread,': 0.29; 'posts': 0.30; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'clear': 0.35; 'unicode': 0.35; 'there': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'whom': 0.37; 'google': 0.39; 'mark': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; 'between': 0.65; 'python-list': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=yNxGXxfC/+Jg0V4Ogex2Tdpo44sV0hFTaiS9ahVrdO0=; b=LW6GMvuitfCfepX2bnwhI+bH0PQRejxysV6blBwUGhueOKHALwuFPdYJHuQjVFpon5 QzEhR7kcGtWJJb8q960AdXjr3MxZfJROo5eWVP5sXmSaECSVL/+S1YhAKFnxHvZLpVBy deh1fV4kGL9a4nB2R5RLXNnCdoWzXtfNLk/XUAnHvI9OywOmzjgDKqihQqYSzpyNYIEw HZfICDzuu3O91UAbgBBmK9+5Af7sUdw8QyDxv627n6iUD6GZrlcJdIGGIZiyXJwC9eLQ 9bVvcM3e6299b1gAOsvhGuj6nYjJjGGTHbVipEZHaYzQ932R0a5RjwXl0muKOrhxxWT1 ZKow== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.132.144 with SMTP id o16mr17833830ioi.31.1442158783305; Sun, 13 Sep 2015 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <557c7158-6a8f-42e3-8cec-411f29363436@googlegroups.com> References: <85mvws6z45.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <85io7g6xy4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85egi46wng.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <8e16c020-e734-401d-92cb-10a2cdddd497@googlegroups.com> <55f4657f$0$1675$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <0034a8bd-cd81-4c5e-9759-1ce1aa97e2e2@googlegroups.com> <0f742e14-1983-42ae-a774-f8a9f3485e34@googlegroups.com> <5d871fb7-03f5-4b58-b03b-d411fc693658@googlegroups.com> <55F4E0E0.6020009@gmail.com> <557c7158-6a8f-42e3-8cec-411f29363436@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 01:39:43 +1000 Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442158785 news.xs4all.nl 23770 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45919 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96507 On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 1:31 AM, rurpy--- via Python-list wrote: > Ben, > > If the troll being taunted here is referring to me, I suggest > you review my posts in this thread, You've said in the past > that you don't read posts from Google Groups (that's fine, > your choice) so perhaps you do not have a clear idea what I > have written. I think Ben's referring to taunting jmf, whom Mark called the "RUE" or "Resident Unicode Expert". There has been a long-standing antagonism between those two (which is completely understandable), and one which often spills over into vitriolic posts (which is less acceptable). ChrisA