Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'versions,': 0.07; 'intriguing': 0.09; 'sucks': 0.09; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'paul': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'michael': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'manager': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'managing': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'revealed': 0.68; 'sound': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'short,': 0.84; 'yet?': 0.84; 'hardest': 0.91; 'wanting': 0.93 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 21:05:37 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: [OT] Weaknesses of distro package managers - was Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain References: <20150316025301.GA94576@cskk.homeip.net> <873855tts4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <55068cb0$0$12923$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8761a1gxhq.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <550710DD.3030405@gmail.com> <55078762.6050809@gmail.com> <87k2ygmjef.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <87k2ygmjef.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426561540 news.xs4all.nl 2964 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55047 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87602 On 03/16/2015 08:45 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: >>> But after 20 years, the package manager idea certain has revealed many >>> shortcomings (in short, it sucks in many ways). ... >> The hardest part is managing library versions, and that's always going >> to be a problem. > > Have either of you tried Nixos or Guix yet? I've been wanting to. The > ideas sound intriguing from what I've seen so far. Haven't but I will take a look..