Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'enhancements': 0.09; 'exceeds': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '2.7': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'antoine': 0.16; 'fork': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'splitting': 0.16; 'value"': 0.16; 'version?': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(not': 0.18; 'starts': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'mention': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'moved': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '3.x': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'older': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'deadline': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; '2.6': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'extremely': 0.39; 'realize': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'slowly': 0.60; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'forward': 0.65; 'production.': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'lack': 0.78; '2.8': 0.84; '95%': 0.84; 'antoine.': 0.84; 'destructive': 0.84; 'migrating': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Blog "about python 3" Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:55:40 +0000 References: <52c1dc4c$0$2877$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <52C1F5EC.3020808@stoneleaf.us> <52c29416$0$29987$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-190-112.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388505356 news.xs4all.nl 2837 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56073 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62932 On 31/12/2013 15:41, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano pearwood.info> writes: >>> >>> I expect that as excuses for not migrating get fewer, and the deadline for >>> Python 2.7 end-of-life starts to loom closer, more and more haters^W >>> Concerned People will whine about the lack of version 2.8 and ask for >>> *somebody else* to fork Python. >>> >>> I find it, hmmm, interesting, that so many of these Concerned People who say >>> that they're worried about splitting the Python community[1] end up >>> suggesting that we *split the community* into those who have moved forward >>> to Python 3 and those who won't. >> >> Indeed. This would be extremely destructive (not to mention alienating the >> people doing *actual* maintenance and enhancements on Python-and-its-stdlib, >> of which at least 95% are committed to the original plan for 3.x to slowly >> supercede 2.x). >> >> Regards >> >> Antoine. > > I'm using 2.7 in production. I realize that at some point we'll need to > upgrade to 3.x. We'll keep putting that off as long as the "effort + > dependencies + risk" metric exceeds the "perceived added value" metric. > Do you use any of the features that were backported from 3.x to 2.7, or could you have stayed with 2.6 or an even older version? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence