Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'shame': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; '"python': 0.16; 'link,': 0.16; 'plan.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'alex': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'point': 0.28; 'dec': 0.30; 'comments': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'supposed': 0.32; "we're": 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'ago': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'transition': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'ahead': 0.38; 'stopped': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'planning': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'major': 0.40; 'subject:"': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'interest': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'wall': 0.65; 'response.': 0.68; 'six': 0.68; 'expectations': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'url:2013': 0.84; 'url:posts': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Blog "about python 3" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 21:29:00 +0000 References: <52c1dc4c$0$2877$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-171-180.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <52c1dc4c$0$2877$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1388438955 news.xs4all.nl 2926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48246 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62904 On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to >> some of you. > > I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for > sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. > > I'd like to know where Alex gets the idea that the transition of Python 2 > to 3 was supposed to be a five year plan. As far as I know, it was a ten > year plan, and we're well ahead of expectations of where we would be at > this point of time. People *are* using Python 3, the major Linux distros > are planning to move to Python 3, the "Python Wall Of Shame" stopped > being a wall of shame a long time ago (I think it was a year ago? or at > least six months ago). Alex's article is, basically, FUD. > > More comments will have to follow later. > http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence