Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'bsd': 0.05; 'backwards': 0.07; 'supported.': 0.07; 'whatever.': 0.07; 'comment,': 0.09; 'relies': 0.09; 'rolling': 0.09; 'discussions': 0.12; 'heavily': 0.15; 'subject:was': 0.15; '"hey': 0.16; 'bread,': 0.16; 'guys,': 0.16; 'luckily,': 0.16; 'mainstream': 0.16; 'nonsense': 0.16; 'sdk': 0.16; 'subject:install': 0.16; 'subject:lxml': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'ubuntu,': 0.16; 'worse.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'advance': 0.17; 'linux': 0.17; 'jan': 0.19; 'compatible': 0.21; 'linux,': 0.21; 'discussion': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'figure': 0.23; 'received:209.85.212.46': 0.23; 'received:mail-vw0-f46.google.com': 0.23; 'debian': 0.23; 'enhancements': 0.23; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.25; 'code': 0.25; 'there.': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; 'pm,': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'far.': 0.28; 'server': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.30; 'lasts': 0.30; 'kids': 0.30; 'certainly': 0.32; 'like.': 0.32; 'break': 0.32; 'source': 0.32; "won't": 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'decide': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'done.': 0.34; 'mostly': 0.34; 'view,': 0.34; 'received:209.85.212': 0.34; 'rather': 0.34; 'someone': 0.34; 'all.': 0.34; 'platform,': 0.34; 'sense,': 0.34; '(not': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'operating': 0.35; 'specially': 0.36; 'to:name :python-list': 0.36; 'run': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'unless': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'not,': 0.37; 'largely': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'useful': 0.38; 'put': 0.38; 'open': 0.38; 'unlike': 0.38; 'point': 0.39; 'being': 0.39; 'subject:how': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'url:microsoft': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'got': 0.40; 'under': 0.40; 'personal': 0.60; 'more': 0.61; 'stop': 0.61; 'hope': 0.61; 'course,': 0.61; 'projects': 0.62; 'everybody': 0.63; 'dear': 0.64; 'opened': 0.64; 'secure': 0.67; 'glad': 0.68; 'yourself': 0.69; 'customers': 0.71; 'offer': 0.72; 'hate': 0.73; 'succeed': 0.73; 'commercial': 0.73; 'yourself,': 0.76; 'products,': 0.78; 'age': 0.79; 'advantages': 0.80; 'invest': 0.80; "(don't": 0.84; 'something.': 0.84; 'them;': 0.84; 'xp,': 0.84; 'beg': 0.91; 'picture': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EEzKsSoVjgrJ3Efw0YLHAGGrEYGFcp1/+Xr9d/1RT74=; b=At4Ikjft95tsWdBunlHqQSm3qZ45LvKZv6FJZskaqUxOYIvpi4H3zXcm5+tNxH1yB2 xNH+f3f8aXhB6NXJ6UVoBqZ+cK1b8UGMQ6zUZNFlbKOnUNbLLq5QMaYULvF/vVu3hpaE uJ+MRBnJmfqQwXvyGxw7eWbL8ppJgGAgIARD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: enalicho@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4F108EF1.7030908@googlemail.com> References: <4F0E6930.6070701@googlemail.com> <5e6e9e04-82de-4e8f-ba1f-b110ca25c2f0@a8g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> <4f0fbad0$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4F108EF1.7030908@googlemail.com> From: Noah Hall Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:42:18 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8DcxGwd6rwZqr3QSu3Wlz9Yv_jk Subject: Re: Zealotry [was Re: how to install lxml in window xp?] To: python-list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1326487382 news.xs4all.nl 6923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39684 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18944 On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > dear people! > I have just opened my MTU client, and figured out that through my > comment, i caused a complete NONSENSE discussion at all. > > > 1. I am not a zealot or whatever. I code on Linux and port it on MAC and > WINDOWS. I do write solutions for customers across the whole 3 platform, > and mostly I succeed because I have to figure out in advance which > software (packages) are being supported and how far. > Use Linux! > Specially Gentoo Linux! Screams zealot to me. If not, certainly not a very useful reply. "Hey guys, I want to cut the bread, can someone tell me how to use the knife?" "Use a futuristic laser! Build it yourself for the uber 1337 status!" > 2. There are many open source projects out (don't ask where, look for > yourself, you are old enough!) as well commercial software vendors who > don't offer their products, or give support for Windows XP. More fool them; XP is still (unfortunately) heavily used in workplaces and in Universities. Luckily, Windows, unlike Linux, is largely backwards compatible - it's rare to find a program which won't run on XP if it can run on Vista+, unless it's a game that relies on DX11 or something. > 3. All of you know, that windows xp is by Microsoft not anymore > supported. Neither with Security Updated, Enhancements with Software, > SDK or whatever. and not only XP, also Win95,98,ME, and 2000 > Professional (not the server editions). Mainstream support ended, yes, but extended support lasts until 2014. Extended support is security updates and the like. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?C2=1173 > 4. Of course any OS has it's advantages and disadvantages. Gentoo is a > rolling distribution, when it's set up it works nicely. Of course, you > have to invest a lot of effort to get in what doesn't mean that Debian > and Ubuntu, and the others are worse. Yeah, no. I prefer an operating system that's stable and secure for my servers and for my development. Call me crazy, but I like to get work done. > >From my personal point of view, I will never set up a gentoo machine as > a server in a datacenter, I would rather use BSD Unix. But this is > something that personally everybody has to decide for him/herself. Good boy you! I'm glad you've got some sense, there. > Now, I hope that I put a line under this discussions and beg the kids > between the age of 18 - 24 who are really impulsive to fire around with > the guns on others to stop this nonsense thread. > > That doesn't leave a nice picture in the community. Hate to break it to you, but you started it with > Use Linux! > Specially Gentoo Linux!