Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.219 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.64; '*S*': 0.08; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'arguments': 0.09; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'parts,': 0.16; 'subject:Could': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'references': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:List': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'url:2012': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'combining': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'url:wordpress': 0.78; 'counts': 0.83; 'subject:this': 0.83; 'characters,': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FwGThOuddMVUpSnCLnZ1Q4FyqeB5efBokSi/PnMnMQU=; b=J8np9LHSYe+Wdk2e4BIpzndTSE8OwUpSDkhsbcbHQzzRTaFx5sDBtlLVmpoUE9zekz qp3Hn4PXnkXYCthMApuLxnS8ULKmk3qLB7wsOFyRP/DdODjWFRU6kH+yGa7HHvFsqmow COYz+2HeR5BQXDjH+kpiL+adv8o8E8cuN/h4y3ztRpQRgqnU5Zfn19VFmTOZhh/Ox4dh ISI++qRwFkGJZrO9Uq6VkXoKqMZdt8AjhXuzHZ4E96C6b5vhNMRO7l4YEjJm7F3yWU8b H4ma0KRivDimRygYvmwl0Omek9jFueqL4r5vW1ohvtQq1kppRVO09owBebQKkyaIn7FS oXFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.89.170 with SMTP id bp10mr3262546vdb.104.1376202263603; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:24:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 07:24:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Could you verify this, Oh Great Unicode Experts of the Python-List? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:00:37 +0200 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1376211638 news.xs4all.nl 15935 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33315 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:52371 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: > Given tweet =3D b"caf\x65\xCC\x81".decode(): > > >>> tweet > 'caf=E9' > > But: > > >>> len(tweet) > 5 You're now looking at the difference between glyphs and combining characters. Twitter counts combining characters, so when you build one "thing" out of lots of separately-typed parts, it does count as more characters. Read this article for some arguments on the subject, including a number of references to Twitter itself: http://unspecified.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/the-importance-of-language-leve= l-abstract-unicode-strings/ ChrisA