Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.chainon-marquant.org!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'advice.': 0.05; 'python': 0.08; '>>>>': 0.09; 'accuse': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.15; 'alex23': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'os.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'jan': 0.19; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.21; 'linux,': 0.21; 'appropriate': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'least,': 0.23; 'starts': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'writes:': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; 'explicit': 0.28; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; '(and': 0.29; 'agreed.': 0.30; 'installation': 0.30; 'thu,': 0.32; 'that,': 0.32; 'break': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'instead': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'someone': 0.34; 'question': 0.35; 'install': 0.35; 'run': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'another': 0.37; 'steven': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'think': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'being': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'might': 0.40; 'extremely': 0.40; 'free': 0.63; 'making': 0.65; 'yourself': 0.69; 'accused': 0.84 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,503,1320620400"; d="scan'208";a="70691" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.sequans.com Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:34:01 +0100 From: Jean-Michel Pichavant User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100328) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Zealotry References: <4F0E6930.6070701@googlemail.com> <5e6e9e04-82de-4e8f-ba1f-b110ca25c2f0@a8g2000pbi.googlegroups.com> <4f0fbad0$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87r4z45ed8.fsf@benfinney.id.au> In-Reply-To: <87r4z45ed8.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1326450875 news.xs4all.nl 6927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50637 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18906 Ben Finney wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > > >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:50:13 -0800, alex23 wrote: >> >> >>> Tamer Higazi wrote: >>> >>>> So, instead of making yourself continuously headache for an >>>> outdated OS I advise [...] >>>> >>> Please don't recommend people use another OS when they ask an >>> explicit question about a particular OS. It just makes you come >>> across as a zealot. >>> >> Why is it that only Linux and Mac users are accused of being >> "zealots"? If I ask how to install (say) MYOB or Photoshop on Linux, >> and people tell me that I will have to use Windows if I want to easily >> run that software, I don't accuse them of being a zealot. >> > > Agreed. > > Giving a recommendation for a different OS is not zealotry. > > Even if it were expressed passionately (and I don't think this case > qualifies), a recommendation of software on its merits is still not > zealotry. > > When someone starts being extremely emotional, or even militant, it > might be appropriate to break out the “zealot” label. Short of that, > it's an attempt to slur someone enthusiastically giving advice. > > Recommending an OS to solve one python package installation is zealotry. At least, advise to use a virtual machine software to try it out, there are some VM softwares for free working with windows. JM