Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!bcyclone03.am1.xlned.com!bcyclone03.am1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.035 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'says.': 0.09; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'appears': 0.23; '2015': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'second': 0.24; 'example': 0.25; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; '"the': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'tue,': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.39; 'talking': 0.67; 'around,': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.90 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=AzT8yFmdpB9EdbmmvqOi7rMGhjldjG0sJdHShDPleT0=; b=r2Qni4mp2B99LaTmKwameJC+W8h1x6VU6Rbnwq4VCqS/zS7717rU8M9H18IJupl+O8 mBz4a9VlGhNbQZ/8gWL8bqqecb2Afn+H7do0apsefzC0G3KdzKGyorVxuTJrZ0cyLdaC bHuXdueGV17k5b+D93ZPMyDUrDjY1DEsNO4kF6PekRkjI+92dCyJiIcpT96ngIbSHrLz ni89vMZHVQ83WxKBST8MFsTzgjOZM4j8rI1mCqdc323OYXrgPDeQRRD51oC3TM5a76v+ wIjdfEhZkrKg7ZKy4j/6seWI7Jahee4b6AdeydTR5xgNsLPujkzPT8bETm9LpQe8sH4/ YtZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.176.228 with SMTP id cl4mr18766508igc.2.1433230576987; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:36:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <556d58f1$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> References: <522eb795$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5230ff66$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52315238$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <52329db3$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <47479653-fde1-4369-b958-8a42c8fcfeeb@googlegroups.com> <556d58f1$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:36:16 +1000 Subject: Re: Language design From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1433230579 news.xs4all.nl 2890 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49575 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 3736 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2750519831 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91808 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > but that's not what my second example says. Look closely, and consider that > sometimes we write "Mark's hat" and sometimes "the hat of Mark". ... and sometimes "the hat Mark's talking through", which appears to put "hat" and "Mark's" the other way around, but is no less true. ChrisA