Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!amsnews11.chello.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'json': 0.07; 'received:verizon.net': 0.07; 'subject:object': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'dict': 0.09; 'encoder': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; ';-)': 0.12; 'am,': 0.12; "hasn't": 0.13; 'subject:file': 0.13; 'structures': 0.15; 'reedy': 0.16; 'unordered': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.18; 'help.': 0.18; 'convert': 0.19; 'jan': 0.19; 'suggest': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'objects,': 0.23; 'developing': 0.25; 'module': 0.26; 'load': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'table,': 0.28; 'problem': 0.29; 'efficiently': 0.30; 'far,': 0.30; '(e.g.': 0.30; 'url:library': 0.30; 'app': 0.31; 'do.': 0.31; 'version': 0.31; 'does': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; "isn't": 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'force': 0.34; 'mostly': 0.34; 'anything': 0.34; 'flag': 0.34; 'numbers.': 0.34; 'stores': 0.34; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'subject:text': 0.35; 'file': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'another': 0.37; 'easiest': 0.38; 'created': 0.38; 'put': 0.38; 'should': 0.38; 'possible.': 0.39; 'url:docs': 0.39; "i'd": 0.39; 'url:org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'change': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'data': 0.40; 'course,': 0.61; 'kind': 0.62; 'you.': 0.64; 'texts': 0.73; 'database.': 0.74; 'dict,': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: stable object serialization to text file Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:15:54 -0500 References: <030AD516-2A52-411B-9A20-BD60DF8AE75B@me.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-109-121-73.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1326399385 news.xs4all.nl 6843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56634 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18881 On 1/12/2012 7:24 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > M=C3=A1t=C3=A9 Koch wrote: > >> I'm developing an app which stores the data in file system database. T= he >> data in my case consists of large python objects, mostly dicts, contai= ning >> texts and numbers. The easiest way to dump and load them would be pick= le, >> but I have a problem with it: I want to keep the data in version contr= ol, >> and I would like to use it as efficiently as possible. Is it possible = to >> force pickle to store the otherwise unordered (e.g. dictionary) data i= n a >> kind of ordered way, so that if I dump a large dict, then change 1 tin= y >> thing in it and dump again, the diff of the former and the new file wi= ll >> be minimal? >> >> If pickle is not the best choice for me, can you suggest anything else= ? >> (If there isn't any solution for it so far, I will write the module of= >> course, but first I'd like to look around and make sure it hasn't been= >> created yet.) > > Have you considered json? > > http://docs.python.org/library/json.html > > The encoder features a sort_keys flag which might help. If that does not do it for you, consider that a dict is a two-column=20 table, with arbitrary structures in each column. Convert to list with=20 sorted(somedict.items()). This is basically what json should do. Then=20 write to a text stream, one line per key,value pair. Whether you put the = text into an os file in a directory (a hierachical database ;-) or a=20 text field in another database is up to you. Either way, diffs are easy. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy