Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'badly': 0.09; 'english,': 0.09; 'properly.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language,': 0.12; 'assume': 0.14; 'actors': 0.16; 'crowd,': 0.16; 'exists,': 0.16; 'grasp': 0.16; 'later)': 0.16; 'luckily,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'working.': 0.19; '(in': 0.22; 'coding': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'recognize': 0.24; 'decide': 0.24; 'right.': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'nature': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'about.': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'version': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'somebody': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'us,': 0.73; 'day': 0.76; 'glad': 0.83; 'fortunately': 0.84; 'pike': 0.84; 'wish.': 0.84; 'serious': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dave Angel Subject: Re: hex dump w/ or w/out utf-8 chars Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:02:24 -0400 References: <7ef8c0e7-7f7c-4a22-89a9-50f62c4a8064@googlegroups.com> <26d5c832-eaa1-439e-af61-e2855af2cd18@googlegroups.com> <2165f7cc-b9bf-41b1-b128-d33b522046dc@googlegroups.com> <51e12295$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.32.174.30 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373742160 news.xs4all.nl 15984 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38901 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50611 On 07/13/2013 10:37 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > > The FSR is naive and badly working. I can not force people > to understand the coding of the characters [*]. That would be very hard, since you certainly do not. > > I'm the first to recognize that Python and/or Pike are > free to do what they wish. Fortunately for us, Python (in version 3.3 and later) and Pike did it right. Some day the others may decide to do similarly. > > Luckily, for the crowd, those who do not even know that the > coding of characters exists, all the serious actors active in > text processing are working properly. Here, I'm really glad you don't know English, because if you had a decent grasp of the language, somebody might assume you knew what you were talking about. > > jmf > > * By nature characters and numbers are differents. > By nature Jmf has his own distorted reality. -- DaveA