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From: Joel Goldstick To: =?UTF-8?B?zp3Ouc66z4zOu86xz4I=?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0ddf42437bc04e152f237 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:37:53 +0200 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 129 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373657874 news.xs4all.nl 15949 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46975 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50551 --047d7bf0ddf42437bc04e152f237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM, =CE=9D=CE=B9=CE=BA=CF=8C=CE=BB=CE=B1=CF= =82 wrote: > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 12/7/2013 6:32 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Dave = Angel =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > > >> I suggest you read that geoiptool site, in particular the page >> >> http://www.geoiptool.com/en/**ip_info/ >> >> There is some misinformation, but notice carefully the part about >> dynamic IP addresses. Probably 99% of the individual users on the web >> (the ones using a browser) have dynamic IP addresses. The fixed ones >> are needed by servers, and especially for DNS use, where the name lookup >> wants to be stable for relatively log periods of time. >> > > > I did, for me it gives exact city location and not the ISP's city locatio= n. > > I dont know whay for you ti just says Kansas, it shoudln't, since it > susing longitute and latitude, it should have been accurate. > > > Nikos, this is the point where you (again) loose credibility on this list. You asked this question about how to find the location where someone is browsing your site from. You got several answers. The bottom line is that you can't know that location unless the browsing machine does its own geo location (think cell phones) or the user has provided his location via some form. So, now, a week or two later you come back with the same question, as if it hasn't already been answered -- but you give it a 'red herring' kind of twist. As I understand it, you found a new module that you think will do something that all parties answering this question before explained that this is not possible. And you switch up to say "why can't I load this thing?". Well, I don't why you can't load it, but I don't want to help because it doesn't help you solve your stated problem. Your stated problem is done. move on. > -- > What is now proved was at first only imagined! > -- > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list > --=20 Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com --047d7bf0ddf42437bc04e152f237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM, =CE=9D=CE=B9=CE=BA=CF=8C=CE=BB=CE= =B1=CF=82 <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
=CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 12/7/2013 6:32 =CE= =BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Dave Angel =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:

I suggest you read that geoiptool site, in particular the page

http://w= ww.geoiptool.com/en/ip_info/

There is some misinformation, but notice carefully the part about
dynamic IP addresses. =C2=A0Probably 99% of the individual users on the web=
(the ones using a browser) have dynamic IP addresses. =C2=A0The fixed ones<= br> are needed by servers, and especially for DNS use, where the name lookup wants to be stable for relatively log periods of time.


I did, for me it gives exact city location and not the ISP's city locat= ion.

I dont know whay for you ti just says Kansas, it shoudln't, since it su= sing longitute and latitude, it should have been accurate.


Nikos, this is the point where you (again= ) loose credibility on this list.=C2=A0 You asked this question about how t= o find the location where someone is browsing your site from.=C2=A0 You got= several answers.=C2=A0 The bottom line is that you can't know that loc= ation unless the browsing machine does its own geo location (think cell pho= nes) or the user has provided his location via some form.

So, now, a week or two later you come back with the same que= stion, as if it hasn't already been answered -- but you give it a '= red herring' kind of twist.=C2=A0 As I understand it, you found a new m= odule that you think will do something that all parties answering this ques= tion before explained that this is not possible.=C2=A0 And you switch up to= say "why can't I load this thing?".=C2=A0 Well, I don't = why you can't load it, but I don't want to help because it doesn= 9;t help you solve your stated problem.=C2=A0 Your stated problem is done.= =C2=A0 move on.


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