Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'detect': 0.07; 'bug.': 0.09; 'builtin': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'issue:': 0.09; 'subject:question': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'callable': 0.16; 'callable,': 0.16; 'eckhardt': 0.16; 'stumbled': 0.16; 'tracker,': 0.16; 'typeerror:': 0.16; 'unexpected': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'simpler': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "skip:' 10": 0.31; 'apparently': 0.31; 'assert': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '+0200,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'jul': 0.74; 'url :python-dev': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Gou20+Z6pKeR7oJBKI0KCAwSWTg8P8zu8m1a+4GJ4BI=; b=P4gPwL0mj2UrfjzSgneC53Pkj456v3D5EB5musTWEQRHV03HggxfOZ4VSy3narYB31 UQdQhEqpoYLwrHgS2fZf8pJJQnyuyekmnpmJGOeK1zjJgyc5swYtNmQfzH4qkvllfpta pNQCp2Jlnrr0pJE20rxtZYRK9c7R192SDc+vKJUdmp319HmwleTZoTSDXi+cxPjVr2Rd 2hFMWutx1x5M2xvaiyk7jtvN/4R+C8ZrK9PKAKSaW3RkrXl7pYIwSRgu1/bT8Wn3Bh0w wssV0+6QLilAu3sGiDBlCWmVzzbTtJRs2Cvl89cTowE2EgyWO7V+SA056lCjQA23VbYJ 3kEg== X-Received: by 10.66.139.227 with SMTP id rb3mr42231928pab.121.1373613102219; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:11:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51df65f7$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <51df65f7$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 01:11:02 -0600 Subject: Re: Callable or not callable, that is the question! To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373613111 news.xs4all.nl 15979 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43479 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50500 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:05:59 +0200, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I just stumbled over a case where Python (2.7 and 3.3 on MS Windows) >> fail to detect that an object is a function, using the callable() >> builtin function. Investigating, I found out that the object was indeed >> not callable, but in a way that was very unexpected to me: > [...] >> X.test2[0]() # TypeError: 'staticmethod' object is not callable >> >> >> Bug or feature? > > In my opinion, a bug. I thought I had actually submitted it to the bug > tracker, but apparently I was a shameful slacker and did not. However > there was a discussion in this thread: > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2011-March/109090.html > > > Here's a simpler demonstration of the issue: > > assert callable(staticmethod(lambda: None)) If staticmethod is going to be callable then classmethod should be callable also.