Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'package,': 0.03; 'next,': 0.05; '2.6.4': 0.07; 'rod': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'files:': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'statement.': 0.09; 'files.': 0.09; 'output': 0.10; '"copyright",': 0.16; '"credits"': 0.16; '"license"': 0.16; '[gcc': 0.16; 'happens.': 0.16; 'received:dip.t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'received:t-dialin.net': 0.16; 'replaces': 0.16; 'sticking': 0.16; 'subject:behavior': 0.16; 'subject:import': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; "haven't": 0.20; 'maybe': 0.21; 'dec': 0.22; 'changed': 0.23; 'from:addr:web.de': 0.23; 'happening': 0.24; 'module': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'import': 0.27; 'variable': 0.28; 'compare': 0.28; "skip:' 10": 0.29; 'print': 0.29; 'closer': 0.30; 'imported': 0.30; 'none,': 0.30; 'ok,': 0.31; "isn't": 0.33; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.33; 'named': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.34; 'none': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'or,': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; 'type': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; '***': 0.73; '4.2.1': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Subject: Re: Perplexed by the behavior of import Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:40:04 +0100 Organization: None References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5084b977.dip.t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 87 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1326213611 news.xs4all.nl 6847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37474 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18772 Rod Kosloski wrote: > I'm perlexed by an apparent inconsistency in the behavior of the import > statement. > > First, the files. There is a simple package, pkg, containing two files: > mod.py and util.py, and a stand-alone module also named util.py: > > *** ./pkg/__init__.py *** > from mod import * > *** ./pkg/mod.py *** > M = 8 > *** ./pkg/util.py *** > V = 0 > *** ./util.py *** > from pkg import * > from pkg.util import * > U = 0 > > Next, the Python session: > > Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 13 2009, 19:46:11) > [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646) (dot 1)] on darwin > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> import util > >>> globals() > {'__builtins__': , '__name__': > {'__main__', > '__doc__': None 'util': , > '__package__': None} > >>> from pkg import * > >>> globals() > {'__builtins__': , 'M': 8, > {'__package__': > None, 'util': , '__name__': > '__main__', '__doc__': None, > 'mod': } > > Compare the output of the two globals() statements: > Variable util's value has changed from > to > > What's happening to util? > > OK, maybe pkg.util replaces the original util because of the pkg import > statement. That's indeed what happens. > But then, what about the following: > > Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 13 2009, 19:46:11) > [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646) (dot 1)] on darwin > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> util = 0 > >>> globals() > {'__builtins__': , '__name__': > {'__main__', > '__doc__': None, 'util': 0, '__package__': None} > >>> from pkg import * > >>> globals() > {'__builtins__': , 'M': 8, > {'__package__': > None, 'util': 0, '__name__': '__main__', '__doc__': None, 'mod': > } > >>> > > Now the value of util is unchanged across the pkg import statement. > > Why the difference? As long as you haven't imported the pkg.util module there isn't an "util" variable in the pkg namespace: $ python -c 'import pkg; print "util" in vars(pkg); import pkg.util; print "util" in vars(pkg)' False True Or, sticking closer to your example: $ python -c 'util = 0; from pkg import *; print util' 0 $ python -c 'util = 0; import pkg.util; from pkg import *; print util'