Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.023 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'badly': 0.09; 'english)': 0.09; 'get.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'finnish': 0.16; 'foot': 0.16; 'insisted': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'similarly,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'earlier': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'getting': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'definition': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '+0200,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'conference': 0.38; 'heard': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'tell': 0.60; 'french': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'telling': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'american': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'walk': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; 'barber': 0.84; 'laid': 0.84; 'mile': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'subject:Practices': 0.84; 'western': 0.86; 'severe': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python Worst Practices Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:45:16 +0000 References: <87ioem8ftg.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <54f2c9c6$0$12991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8761ak7kxm.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87sido6491.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <6d6033b8-d228-4f5f-ac68-ae5b2a226431@googlegroups.com> <87d24regm6.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-199-155.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425311125 news.xs4all.nl 2854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86752 On 02/03/2015 15:32, alister wrote: > On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:19:45 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > >> alister : >> >>> or as another analogy why don't you (Marco) try telling a Barber in >>> Seville that he should be speaking Latin Spanish not that strange >>> variation he uses? >> >> If the barber conference language were Latin, and some Spaniard insisted >> on speaking Western Andalusian, I sure would consider that obnoxious. >> >> Similarly, I've heard some Finnish representatives in the Nordic Council >> complain how the Danish insist on speaking Danish. The official language >> there is Swedish. >> >>> I suspect the reaction you get will be far more severe than the one you >>> are getting from we English (& Brits) >> >> I don't understand your reaction. The rest of us are willing to walk a >> mile (say, Finnish -----> American English) and you are up in arms about >> having to shift a foot (say, Scouse -> American English). >> >> >> Marko > > Because the language is English not American. > the Standard for English is by very definition UK English > English is spoken badly enough as it is without deliberately speaking it > worse! > > > As I said earlier tell a Spaniard they need to learn Latin Spanish > because traditional Spanish is not standard & see how far you get. > if they are laid back about it try the same thing with he French > > This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canarian_Spanish is interesting. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence