Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.astraweb.com!border2.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'latter': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'definition.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:stop': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'developers': 0.25; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'requests': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'continues': 0.31; 'guess': 0.33; 'link.': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'replies': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'writes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; '8bit%:6': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'up,': 0.60; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'happen': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'anything.': 0.68; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'claims.': 0.84; 'fourth': 0.84; 'malicious': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'ample': 0.91; 'that),': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Please stop the trolling Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:09 +0000 References: <9f5d28ce-504d-40db-baa2-ff3699ab05c7@googlegroups.com> <52AE4A86.8040402@arcor.de> <20131217160751.0a902cd1ac2deb96247ebfc6@gmx.net> <20131223185941.5712de41de7ac0c101f3eceb@gmx.net> <4763b6c4-b350-4aad-9f71-8f15490fc762@googlegroups.com> <43061a46-09f0-41d0-96f8-6a68fc11fca2@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-207-44.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387900503 news.xs4all.nl 2927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35648 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62678 On 24/12/2013 15:28, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 12/24/13 9:58 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 24/12/2013 10:22, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> [once again snip double spaced google crap] >> >>> >>> This is gui related. >> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_the_other_one,_it%27s_got_bells_on >> > > This isn't adding anything. It might even be trolling. > There is nothing trolling about it. How "Joseph McCarthy" can expect us to believe that he's talking about Guis when Terry has snipped this >>> sys.getsizeof('a') 26 >>> sys.getsizeof('€') 40 >>> 40 - 26 14 >>> sys.getsizeof('\U00010000') 44 >>> 44 - 26 18 leaving only this Memory? Let me laugh! is anybody's guess hence my link. I will repeat, for perhaps the fourth time, that while JM continues his malicious attacks on the Python core developers via the nonsense that he writes about PEP 393 and the FSR, I will continue to attack him until he either shuts up or is shut up, or provides the evidence to support his claims. As the latter can never happen (he's had ample opportunity to do so, but strangely never replies to any requests to do just that), it will have to be the former by definition. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence