Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'subject:editor': 0.05; 'desired.': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'extension.': 0.09; 'labelled': 0.09; 'shortcut': 0.09; 'sun,': 0.09; 'workstation': 0.09; 'syntax': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '"import': 0.16; '"new': 0.16; '.py': 0.16; 'closes': 0.16; 'coded': 0.16; 'curve': 0.16; 'emacs': 0.16; 'excellent!': 0.16; 'highlighting': 0.16; 'localhost': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:IDE': 0.16; 'type:': 0.16; 'uni': 0.16; 'yet...': 0.16; 'preference': 0.16; 'idle': 0.19; 'jan': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'badly': 0.22; '(and': 0.22; "haven't": 0.23; '64-bit': 0.23; 'opens': 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'fix': 0.24; "i'm": 0.26; 'settings': 0.26; 'tried': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "doesn't": 0.28; 'thanks': 0.29; 'probably': 0.30; 'seem': 0.30; "won't": 0.30; '17,': 0.31; 'whereas': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; "i've": 0.33; 'sometimes': 0.33; "isn't": 0.34; 'change': 0.34; 'got': 0.34; 'requires': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'file': 0.35; 'finding': 0.35; 'leaves': 0.35; 'quite': 0.36; 'running': 0.36; 'subject:/': 0.36; 'none': 0.36; 'however': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'run': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'user': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'them,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'subject:text': 0.40; "it's": 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'opened': 0.60; 'direct': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.61; '2011': 0.62; 'ever': 0.65; 'prove': 0.65; 'taylor': 0.68; '(e.g.:': 0.84; 'loses': 0.84; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.84; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.84; 'good,': 0.91; 'kate': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cns3pKzvRLadhzhLdzsnGm7OQr/jZu9GMUIbCq/x8so=; b=cu16TXQYb6WfjysXJqHzVe6PUNI5J8SDVQbaxDjvpiwaHg/bnrt5YynJG9jqbbqawm fpwJwgIkSdB/yr6odvobeELqVuO5fHfH7YGQj/h4TjNYqTdN04RuWns1xQY6kriSez8s WBNzf+fnE87WEHICD7BSRlA9MTAlQMsvHLthk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gNxUBfT59CcmY6hfn86IwsywIKZHfiZwsCDqmFlHsrRTyUqy5Y4FAayrSij1WIRc8q 40KsoukcbudialoY2miEBLScJ9dvQ9BZpEZ6BhMFC97jkFEy9RnIaBsHAxg1Odv9o2GX lrbhav22GIZlhIar3dSj2YtUajeMq4NtfSNes= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110417103558.03cc0260@chaostal.de> References: <1302964745.2751.3.camel@cristian-desktop> <87oc45lu02.fsf@castleamber.com> <87hb9xwoic.fsf@castleamber.com> <20110417103558.03cc0260@chaostal.de> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:03:58 +1000 Subject: Re: Python IDE/text-editor From: Alec Taylor To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1303034641 news.xs4all.nl 41110 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:40957 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3387 Thanks for all the replies (I love the python mailing-list!) I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned. PyScripter is great, however is unmaintained thus doesn't support 64-bit :[ (and is a little buggy) Also, it requires network connectivity, which could prove troublesome on my locked-down Uni network (requires localhost for python shell) DreamPIE isn't what I'm looking for. Editra has a python plugin? - Excellent! =97 Got the plugin working... is there a shortcut (e.g.: F9) for running the opened python script? UliPad is quite good, however badly coded (a new console window opens then closes each time I run a script)... I might fix that bug if I ever get the time. MonoDevelop doesn't seem to support Python (I pressed: "New Solution") GEdit probably won't work from a USB, and the embedded console isn't user friendly (you'd need to type: "import x.py" or whatever) Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation without direct console access. GVim leaves a lot aesthetically desired. Also there's a learning-curve to both of them, whereas nano, and all the text-editors/IDEs above are user-friendly. None I've found to have a big learning curve (more about finding the right preference to change in settings than anything else!) Kate I haven't tried yet... it's currently downloading. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/16/2011 3:03 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: >> >> IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often > > Could you exlain? > When does it do that with a file labelled .py? > > Terry Jan Reedy Just randomly, sometimes on first save to a .py, other-times on files that I've opened with a .py extension. It loses all syntax highlighting!