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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Mats Peterson <matsp999@aim.com> wrote:
> Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> wrote:
>> If you actually can satisfy these basic standards for a comparison (as
>> I'm sure any competent person with so much bravo could) I'd be willing
>> to converse with you. I'd like to see these results where Python compares
>> as "extremely slow". Note that, by your own wording, a 30% drop is irrelevant.
>
> I haven't provided a "real-world" example, since I expect you Python
> Einsteins to be able do an A/B test between Python and Perl yourselves
> (provided you know Perl, of course, which I'm afraid is not always the
> case). And why would I use any "custom" version of Python, when I don't
> have to do that with Perl?

Well, I'm certainly not about to do the comparison myself.  I only
have so much time, and presently I am not sufficiently motivated about
this topic to invest any time in it.  A suggestion:  *you* brought up
the subject, so if you want us to pay attention to your claims, then
*you* had better be prepared to get your hands dirty and do the actual
work to support it.