Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Static caching property Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:48:27 -0600 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <35a5c4206a0c40e584d62d5d37b068b3@activenetwerx.com> <56f0230e$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 3U2qPxg31ESrejiiAlKJbQgIQMpjQkCArQBnIJBzDL6g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'static': 0.03; '21,': 0.07; 'option,': 0.07; 'api': 0.09; '22,': 0.09; 'descriptor': 0.09; 'obj,': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; '10:54': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'deferred': 0.16; 'metaclass': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'refers': 0.18; "shouldn't": 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'class,': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'sense': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'var': 0.27; 'callable': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'non': 0.32; 'expensive': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; 'foo': 0.33; 'instances': 0.33; 'option.': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'gets': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'clear': 0.35; 'protocol': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'means': 0.39; 'test': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'mar': 0.65; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'execution,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ySwCrDb6do1oSIFyJH7ZleUpyX20x1OPUmAiq4j5hE8=; b=w6d/mOw7MLMT0MM+xOGnWHAST/lFrDBnb0QtfU3LHzrlUydgU3tR+5pWeFbl71k2vc HykhyR6FktPn3iZUMshWuw+LtC49QRkZ1Cvm7K/H0bXL6lKWAizL3LM8YURVW5jfJx9z 7qMRToj6YnuKYN4Zt46YnMzarVGI/55z9YWrHlZWyA4hr7+9bToAtqHlclaESBoHRI1y 8VCa3FhUOlzjYqW6QTbomEx2NfxaYXDqzClMq0cOIN4sxjysqNk/KYxW9tElv8Jc3Mga Ab4vfRfC7Kk6uSec/OGp7fg9cjvgS5JqPHNm6zuhYQv+E+CEP/rWrnMol5xZ8nQ9YiY6 o5uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ySwCrDb6do1oSIFyJH7ZleUpyX20x1OPUmAiq4j5hE8=; b=FjPASZzZEW+yUogj0FV5J1fDJySC7700yg+MHS3TjLkaIhwLSECWjl+v4no2tlbfzS me/pWybY0Bqo/fi6nVGv2fHyGK+f1z3XI5btWaGBzZ188RfniqpHzU9zKsiIL3e4HV48 Db4bkjbsGLo9liT02KzVpeTiTfuXS2WqexJxiAwn8/3JJWWE3hqSSj6jPzdVZsgGowz3 Jf242739S8chW7YHpcn6xY+SIFq18rWS2yzSuf/uoPDZFbJxrw6+Jp0uDBIZM+yFg8dp jko1RdTRp5S7khbyWe+iZlUHBd/X4WH4JovXpBHyY9uUDMlnBqPnuoNHOVYEo70QQPEI l+7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJI2dN9xTLG1NZDAG62pqw7+AaOG9O93KQ88z9C/BZl8eysBfKpWT8QGkWAB7V9gMkq9pTQgRuwGx2jcFw== X-Received: by 10.107.19.140 with SMTP id 12mr33671156iot.11.1458582547146; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:49:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105382 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:49 AM, Joseph L. Casale > wrote: >> Right, but _private refers to an api call that is expensive and may not even be accessed, >> so while I may new up three instances of Test across a, b and c, if none of those end up >> accessing var x, it shouldn't get fetched. Without some deferred execution, if the value >> of _private is a callable whose return value is what I am interested in, it gets invoked the >> moment the class is compiled. >> >> In the non static sense this is trivial to accomplish with the descriptor protocol, I am just not >> clear for the static sense. > > One solution is to use descriptor protocol on the class, which means > using a metaclass. I'm not sure it's the best option, but it is an > option. You don't actually need a metaclass for this: >>> class Desc: ... def __get__(self, obj, type=None): ... if not type._cached_value: ... type._cached_value = compute_value(type) ... return type._cached_value ... >>> def compute_value(x): return 42 ... >>> class Test: ... foo = Desc() ... _cached_value = None ... >>> Test._cached_value >>> Test.foo 42 >>> Test._cached_value 42