Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!tudelft.nl!txtfeed2.tudelft.nl!amsnews11.chello.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.85.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'parser': 0.05; 'python': 0.08; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; '4:59': 0.16; 'from:addr:behnel.de': 0.16; 'from:addr:stefan_ml': 0.16; 'from:name:stefan behnel': 0.16; 'jython': 0.16; 'toolbox': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'java,': 0.19; 'java': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'stefan': 0.24; 'code.': 0.26; 'module': 0.26; 'integration': 0.28; 'subject:Getting': 0.30; 'xml': 0.31; 'andrew': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; 'pretty': 0.32; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.34; 'received:84': 0.34; 'mix': 0.34; 'issue': 0.35; 'especially': 0.35; 'project': 0.35; 'uses': 0.36; 'think': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'help': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'projects': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'world': 0.62; 'benefit': 0.69; 'benchmark': 0.84; 'slow.': 0.84; 'subject:involved': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Stefan Behnel Subject: Re: Getting involved Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:53:52 +0100 References: <4F082986.6010106@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dslb-084-056-002-183.pools.arcor-ip.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111220 Thunderbird/9.0 In-Reply-To: <4F082986.6010106@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325937250 news.xs4all.nl 6945 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56663 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18640 Andrew Berg, 07.01.2012 12:16: > On 1/7/2012 4:59 AM, Sophie Sperner wrote: >> Could you please list me 2 or 3 projects in Python and/or Java which >> are currently active (vivid) and useful? > > If you really want to mix Python and Java, you could help the Jython > project [...] A big issue that I have with Jython is that its ElementTree XML parser support is so increadibly slow. It could seriously benefit from a better integration between the Java XML support it uses and the Python ElementTree module that it inherits from CPython. Considering that XML is a requirement in many real world applications, especially in the Java world, you (Sophie) might be interested in adding all three of Python, Java and XML to your toolbox at the same time, while also learning how to benchmark and optimise Java and Python code. I think that would pretty quickly get you up to speed with real world software development. Stefan