Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Larry Martell Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:38:15 -0500 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <56d16e6a$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <854mcrxxp3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de qOIYfDIW0MXwGUWBbEEoLQHp374pIk2Ysg8kjXck/fog== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.060 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'before.': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'describing': 0.16; 'reality?': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'sad': 0.16; 'subject:exception': 0.16; 'unconnected': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'to:name :python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'feb': 0.23; 'wrote': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'experiences': 0.27; 'larry': 0.29; 'sure,': 0.29; 'anyone': 0.32; 'true.': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'needed': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'believe': 0.66; 'him,': 0.67; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; 'drug': 0.72; 'subject:skip:M 10': 0.72; '8bit%:46': 0.76; 'article': 0.77; 'delusions': 0.84; 'memories': 0.84; 'subject:author': 0.84; 'misleading': 0.91; 'story.': 0.96 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xlkl7eEu7OulwlEV1KLqI39paJF5ICdcKiKv3nOhJsw=; b=kePb+pCN1BfzvRHprIfPr5azTyrYtUhLFHfjJdpNdmaIL8EOvumj4trcNPmNd4C5DC a2EVJUQx92q+SV30+3flJJcJ4pOtQ+72CSe1xCYMDj3v0vbdjjxWbG8XI8Ou0zRSg4NS sk7m1ykilqpHwtE+jP5AeDMwPqAcxFYlA2EW/RvDQfbCRQrD/I+udkIMvhYrkb0LoVl0 p/AGQIGwyHIugLRZ0MVZnmmnTSE900JMjlqBSlvDMeo4T8MmcXyHdl5F9oghKu+AkqWH gXCTFcc81jEdkPyvrxAKMa0V3ewAyaTsal19MmU9F10kZt87v9pOALgf3hoH5SlEDjvk Z12g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xlkl7eEu7OulwlEV1KLqI39paJF5ICdcKiKv3nOhJsw=; b=Uq+kHWKLBFWR9aId8TACCok6F+1VuMNqw7DQ+zsduklRy+YtEaEfMBPUa/fAf0ju07 c/ruWMhHkWdWKDLg8lirc9lI3SPjZofjme+mhr2yP6Zsztdq1wdl9lnwHdaW27Ilhpt7 UzYqz9FXKbzsfRSDrmPnMXQfoTs5q9qZsrW6WbL8rSEW3TRE5ev/EIt6dpRmseRK3NIz 4SHoVvadD1dJPHHjM4ssCbyNLmVDfmlWMh7D6K4pb4Yk1b7T+xhIocmmr/77KGU6pEN9 Ht5gCY9B46q57Md42MPOJ/wxax6nCxDhWp1L4V6JBMkR/ewj6dSAbMTFzJ8IiWZD+5vk CazQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIcaaTg6ymVO99WKpyLzBqmlrAlNlG/Yf6AtefWd5Cn7Vgzi7rhYhzElUOM8oWEq4uEJHeYXdLKrjsBBw== X-Received: by 10.107.156.208 with SMTP id f199mr4101450ioe.0.1456785536132; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:38:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <854mcrxxp3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103763 On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Ben Finney w= rote: > Ian Kelly writes: > >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell = wrote: >> > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I >> > don't think they needed to drug him, and take all that he had >> > learned away from him and turn him back into what he was before. >> >> "All that he had learned" meaning his delusions and psychoses? > > Indeed. If a revelation is unconnected to reality, it's misleading to > say that one has =E2=80=9Clearned=E2=80=9D it. But what is reality? > Also, I don't see how anyone =E2=80=9Ctook away=E2=80=9D those experience= s. He wrote an > article describing them and clearly still retains those experiences as > memories to recall as he wishes. They made him believe they were not true. > When someone describes the ill effects their mental illness produced, I don't consider him to have been mentally ill.