Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'interfaces': 0.04; 'encoding': 0.05; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'string.': 0.05; '*not*': 0.07; 'binary': 0.07; 'friend.': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'bytes.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'mostly': 0.14; '(before': 0.16; '(use': 0.16; 'argument,': 0.16; 'backwards': 0.16; 'mode,': 0.16; "mode='r',": 0.16; 'open(file,': 0.16; 'porting': 0.16; 'read()': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'streams.': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'proposed': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'enhanced': 0.24; 'simpler': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'url:bugs': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'mode': 0.30; '3.x': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'supposed': 0.32; 'interface': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'object,': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'hi,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'url:library': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'detail.': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'discovered': 0.83; 'opens': 0.91; 'differences': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: io.open vs. codecs.open Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 20:15:59 +0000 References: <54f76359$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-31-244.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <54f76359$0$13012$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 75 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425500171 news.xs4all.nl 2887 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40455 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86915 On 04/03/2015 19:56, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a (use case) difference between codecs.open and io.open? What is >> the difference? A small difference that I just discovered is that >> codecs.open(somefile).read() returns a bytestring if no encoding is >> specified*), but a unicode string if an encoding is specified. io.open >> always returns a unicode string. > > What version of Python are you using? > > In Python 3, io.open is used as the built-in open. I believe this is > guaranteed, and not just an implementation detail. > > The signatures and capabilities are quite different: > > codecs.open: > > open(filename, mode='rb', encoding=None, errors='strict', buffering=1) > > io.open: > > open(file, mode='r', buffering=-1, encoding=None, > errors=None, newline=None, closefd=True, opener=None) > > io.open does *not* always produce Unicode strings. If you pass 'rb' as the > mode, the file is opened in binary mode, not text mode, and the read() > method will return bytes. > > As usual, help() in the interactive interpreter is your friend. > help(codecs.open) and help(io.open) will explain the many differences > between them, including that codecs.open always opens the file in binary > mode. > > As for use-cases, I think that codecs.open is mostly a left-over from the > Python 2 days when the built-in open had a much simpler interface and fewer > capabilities. In Python 2, built-in open doesn't take an encoding argument, > so if you want to use something other than binary mode or the default > encoding, you were supposed to use codecs.open. > > In Python 2.6, the io module was added to Python 2 to aid in porting to > Python 3. The docs say: > > New in version 2.6. > > The io module provides the Python interfaces to stream handling. > Under Python 2.x, this is proposed as an alternative to the > built-in file object, but in Python 3.x it is the default > interface to access files and streams. > > https://docs.python.org/2/library/io.html > > > To summarise: > > * In Python 2, if you want to supply an encoding to open, use codecs.open > (before 2.6) or io.open (2.6 and later); > > * If you want the enhanced capabilities of Python 3 open, use io.open; > > * In Python 3, io.open is the same thing as built-in open; > > * And codecs.open is (I think) mostly there for backwards compatibility. > See http://bugs.python.org/issue8796 "Deprecate codecs.open()". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence