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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 12:17:12 +0800
Subject: Re: Editor Ergonomics [was: Important features for editors]
From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Giorgos Tzampanakis
<giorgos.tzampanakis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2013-07-06, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> * movement between the mouse and the keyboard
>
> Avoid at all costs. Use an editor that never needs the mouse (emacs or
> vim).

I don't use vim often, but for Emacs, I think mouse is often needed:

* It is especially handy for selecting and deleting text.
* Mouse wheel gives you fine control.  You can scroll by a few lines,
  but scroll-{up, down}-command can't.  For programmers working on
  source code, this is especially nice.
* There is mouse3.el[fn:1], which is very convenient.

Footnotes:

[fn:1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el

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Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
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