Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'objects.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:reference': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'object,': 0.27; 'sure,': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'received:comcast.net': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; 'notes': 0.36; 'subject:" ': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'different': 0.63 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Random832 Subject: Re: Terminology: "reference" versus "pointer" Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:10:04 -0400 References: <14afe27e-0bd5-410f-8e64-0f31d496ebf2@googlegroups.com> <55F36B4C.9020007@gmail.com> <1442016698.95299.381478313.2487CA0E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <85mvws6z45.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <85io7g6xy4.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <85egi46wng.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1a1a1f6a-27ce-4c1b-807a-43eabaa04abb@googlegroups.com> <04ca9d7c-d02b-4329-bd94-4d18d86b3edf@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dhAWjQzI5UgtzA+l7JJ+nwZCuXU= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442092220 news.xs4all.nl 23828 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58473 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96460 Jussi Piitulainen writes: > I think the best way is to say that a[0] and a[1] are the same object, > while b[0] and b[1] are different objects. Sure, you can *say* that. But how do you draw it on a diagram with sticky notes or parcel tags or whatever?