Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'assuming': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'skip:t 60': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'equations': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'skip:" 80': 0.16; 'skip:t 130': 0.16; 'subject:question.': 0.16; 'subject:those': 0.16; 'subject: ?': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'math': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'dec': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'horizontal': 0.31; 'idea,': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'keyword': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'name': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'forward': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.67; "'equals'": 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'rusi': 0.91; 'subject:Are': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 19:17:16 +0000 References: <52b59081$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-169-246.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387653458 news.xs4all.nl 2874 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33233 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62509 On 21/12/2013 16:54, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On 21 Dec 2013 12:58:41 GMT, Steven D'Aprano > declaimed the following: > >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:00:22 +0000, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >>> On 20/12/2013 15:34, rusi wrote: >> >>>> You are also assuming that the two horizontal lines sometimes called >>>> 'equals' have something to do with something called by the same name in >>>> math -- equations >>>> >>>> >>> A good point. Shall I write a PEP asking for a language change which >>> requires that that stupid = sign is replaced by a keyword reading >>> something like >>> thenameonthelefthandsideisassignedtheobjectontherighthandside ? >> >> That's an excellent idea, and I look forward to reading the PEP. > > -1 vote... It still has the problematic "assigned" term... > > I'd suggest: > thefullyqualifiednameontheleftafteranysubexpressionshavebeenevaluatedisattachedtotheobjectresultingfromevaluationoftheexpressionontheright > > (heh, the spell-checker suggests that > "thefullyqualifiednameontheleftafteranysubexpressionshavebeenevaluatedisattachedt" > should be replaced with "textually") > Well you can write the PEP then :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence