Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; '21,': 0.07; 'nested': 0.07; 'none:': 0.07; '"__main__":': 0.09; '__name__': 0.09; 'decorator': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'a()': 0.16; 'a(object):': 0.16; 'attr': 0.16; 'descriptor': 0.16; 'funcs': 0.16; 'to:addr:web.de': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'weird': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'convenient': 0.24; 'instance,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'define': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'correctly.': 0.31; 'grouping': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'interface': 0.32; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'classes': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'implement': 0.38; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'making': 0.63; 'fact,': 0.69; 'functions:': 0.84; 'otten': 0.84; 'protocol,': 0.84; 'widespread': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ITJ0g+gx4hAxOyQBKqTkfLxcey6I9quNQT7Lg2YO8KQ=; b=FTkrIOB5QRErhMojZytVFELHZYkBBRlZnqCfozuoCDFt0mST6/3iMy7cdbwt68YAQl sUGSmxH5KiLJXZ7Nt9u2GM9pJwCNJA+vevsIa6FjVrT86R3fDBaalBq83zrZTYBF9FaL zi2NwxluXQyLhYZj5yE2EOdptyuNw27Ipe3kZWBOvSf717BCXTr3l25vzXBZI31Tw3pT X/U/q16UaEippcod6E4D7bXGVGIoYJ8fXBP6l+X+cXwwxkrdHGBYYWwMPKYFI2VPj3iL a++3fWw2UY+SyY8p8fjwNddoq1G7mf+94G9qhVCUo+fga32Em19RbwWFtKW2stFQHXTs uYyA== X-Received: by 10.224.47.137 with SMTP id n9mr22718736qaf.47.1387627695447; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:08:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:07:35 -0800 Subject: Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter To: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "comp.lang.python" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 61 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387627704 news.xs4all.nl 2861 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54166 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62486 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> wrote: > If I were to implement something like this I'd probably use the old trick > with nested functions: > > def getset(f): > funcs = f() > return property(funcs.get("get"), funcs.get("set")) > > class A(object): > @getset > def attr(): > def get(self): > print("accessing attr") > return self._attr > def set(self, value): > print("setting attr to {}".format(value)) > self._attr = value > return locals() > > if __name__ == "__main__": > a = A() > a.attr = 42 > print(a.attr) > > This has been around awhile, but I don't see widespread adoption... IMO: Because classes are the normal way of grouping functions together in Python. In fact, we already have an interface for these classes: the descriptor protocol. Unfortunately it's pretty annoying to define "properties" directly using the descriptor protocol, because its __get__ is weird and difficult to remember how to make work correctly. Also because the decorator making this convenient has been vanished in python 3. ;) class A(object): _attr = None @apply class attr(object): def __get__(self, instance, owner): if instance is None: return self print "accessing attr" return instance._attr def __set__(self, instance, value): print "setting attr to {}".format(value) instance._attr = value a = A() a.attr a.attr = 42 A().attr A().attr = 3 -- Devin