Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'compiler': 0.07; 'badly': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; "hasn't": 0.19; 'unlike': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'errors.': 0.24; 'subject:like': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'compiled': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'testing': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'entirely': 0.33; 'agree': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'extremely': 0.39; 'though,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'believe': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'enjoy': 0.71; 'suffering': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Why Python is like C++ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:22:35 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-30-118.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387614178 news.xs4all.nl 2853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62477 On 21/12/2013 08:09, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 20/12/2013 14:19, Roy Smith wrote: >> >>> http://xkcd.com/1306/ >>> >> >> I believe that to be a very superficial like. They're unlike in that >> once C++ people have compiled their code they can head down to the >> pub, but Python people have to stay at work testing because the >> compiler hasn't caught all potential errors. > > But it takes so much longer for the C++ people to > write their program in the first place, that the > Python people often get to the pub first anyway. > And even if they don't get to the pub at all, they > enjoy what they're doing so much that they don't > care. > Having thought about this for all of 2ns I've come to the startling conclusion that I entirely agree with you. I'm very biased though, suffering extremely badly from both C++phobia and Javaphobia. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence