Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'english.': 0.04; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; '21,': 0.07; 'args': 0.07; 'arguments': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:None': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'accepts': 0.16; 'foo,': 0.16; 'positional': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:key': 0.16; 'them.)': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'refers': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'specified': 0.30; '>>>>': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'plain': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'requirements': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'same.': 0.38; 'url:library': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'day.': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; '20,': 0.68; 'subject': 0.69; 'default': 0.69; 'repeat': 0.74; 'forgotten': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: sort(*, key=None, reverse=None) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:59:49 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-30-118.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387612806 news.xs4all.nl 2848 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60976 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62472 On 21/12/2013 07:35, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 21/12/2013 07:20, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Mark Lawrence >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The subject refers to the list sort method given here >>>> http://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list. I believe that the >>>> "*," bit is simply a typo, given that the docs also state "sort() accepts >>>> two arguments that can only be passed by keyword". Am I correct? >>> >>> >>> It's good practice in technical writing to repeat yourself: once in >>> the formal spec, and once in plain english. I don't see why this would >>> be a typo. >>> >>> -- Devin >>> >> >> So what is it actually saying? > > def func(x, y, *moreargs, foo, bar): > pass > > Any positional args after x and y will go into moreargs, so foo and > bar have to be specified by keywords. (And are mandatory, since I > didn't default them.) If moreargs isn't given a name, then additional > positional args are forbidden, but the requirements on foo and bar are > the same. > > ChrisA > Thanks, you learn something new every day. Or, at my age, you relearn something you've forgotten :) Now where was I... -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence