Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'backwards': 0.07; 'bits': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '>>>>': 0.09; 'false,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'types:': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.10; 'am,': 0.12; '"1"': 0.16; '(django,': 0.16; 'driscoll': 0.16; 'str()': 0.16; 'syntaxerror:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '2.x': 0.18; '3.2': 0.18; '(most': 0.21; 'subject:help': 0.21; 'maybe': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'somehow': 0.23; 'keyword': 0.24; 'traceback': 0.24; 'saying': 0.26; 'language.': 0.28; 'sean': 0.29; 'true,': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'python3': 0.30; 'typeerror:': 0.30; 'about.': 0.32; 'break': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'too': 0.34; 'things': 0.34; 'assignment': 0.34; 'convince': 0.34; 'last):': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'file': 0.36; 'received:au': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'exciting': 0.37; 'think': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'enough': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'else': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'world': 0.62; 'needing': 0.68; 'concept': 0.74; 'you:': 0.82; '2.7.1': 0.84; 'on?': 0.84; 'received:110': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Lie Ryan Subject: Re: help me get excited about python 3 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:51:28 +1100 References: <4F0529F2.8070900@wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 110-175-240-90.static.tpgi.com.au User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <4F0529F2.8070900@wisc.edu> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325753508 news.xs4all.nl 6844 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56709 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18543 On 01/05/2012 03:41 PM, Evan Driscoll wrote: > On 1/4/2012 9:56 AM, Sean Wolfe wrote: >> I am still living in the 2.x world because all the things I want to do >> right now in python are in 2 (django, pygame). But I want to be >> excited about the future of the language. I understand the concept of >> needing to break backwards compatibility. But it's not particularly >> exciting to think about. What are the cool new bits I should be >> reading up on? > This should be enough to convince you: > > ~ : python > Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, May 3 2011, 10:31:28) >>>> 1< "1" > True > > ~ : python3 > Python 3.2 (r32:88445, May 3 2011, 13:26:55) >>>> 1< "1" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > TypeError: unorderable types: int()< str() > > Maybe with Python 4, '1< True' will give a TypeError too ;-). > > > Or if that's not enough, > > ~ : python > Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, May 3 2011, 10:31:28) >>>> True, False = False, True >>>> "True is " + ("True" if True else "False") > 'True is False' > > ~ : python3 > Python 3.2 (r32:88445, May 3 2011, 13:26:55) >>>> True, False = False, True > File "", line 1 > SyntaxError: assignment to keyword Somehow I could hear Sean saying something like: "Yeah... and so?"