Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'assuming': 0.09; 'friday,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'question?': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'rewrite': 0.09; 'skip:t 60': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; '(it': 0.16; 'equations': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:question.': 0.16; 'subject:those': 0.16; 'subject: ?': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'print': 0.22; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'lets': 0.24; 'math': 0.24; 'first,': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'horizontal': 0.31; 'object.': 0.31; 'types.': 0.31; 'december': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'etc': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'keyword': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'subject:. ': 0.67; '20,': 0.68; "'equals'": 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'subject:Are': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Newbie question. Are those different objects ? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:00:22 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-203-17.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387555241 news.xs4all.nl 2847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54392 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62440 On 20/12/2013 15:34, rusi wrote: > On Friday, December 20, 2013 8:46:31 PM UTC+5:30, dec...@msn.com wrote: >> y = raw_input('Enter a number:') >> print type y >> y = float(raw_input('Enter a number:')) >> print type y > >> I'm assuming that y is an object. I'm also assuming that the second and the first y are different objects because they have different types. > > You are also assuming that the two horizontal lines sometimes called 'equals' > have something to do with something called by the same name in math -- equations > A good point. Shall I write a PEP asking for a language change which requires that that stupid = sign is replaced by a keyword reading something like thenameonthelefthandsideisassignedtheobjectontherighthandside ? > Lets unassume that and rewrite the code > > 1. y ! raw_input('Enter a number:') > 2. print type y > 3. y ! float(raw_input('Enter a number:')) > 4. print type y > > Now read that 1 as first, 2 as second etc and read the '!' as 'MAKE'. > (It may help to shout it) > > Now what was your question? > -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence