Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'interfaces': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'deployed': 0.07; 'guys.': 0.09; 'oop': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'will,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'suggest': 0.14; 'anyway': 0.14; '(either': 0.16; 'sense:': 0.16; 'tutorials.': 0.16; 'unhappy': 0.16; '\xc2\xa0i': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'basically': 0.19; 'file,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'python?': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'fine': 0.24; 'guys': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'tutorials': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'subject:development': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'themselves': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'worked': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'possible.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'issue': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'skip:& 20': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'pick': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'receive': 0.70; 'jul': 0.74; '9:45': 0.84; 'compiling': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Z8ubfyZ9KDBCUv4xoIQOEZppRu7kEtbs9VuzMyY3RNo=; b=MN95myFm8s2SZRveBrRqoHoLjbdkIPG3PlWu2Fq1c556iLs0oeWiB6BjoFputkrayI jRHnRWRAqWhWvd5yX1gRpvMQnrq3Ha9ovBwUqVaOqoUXW3y6EQCqz/Rl4rrgqbOMcLCV EZI8irXTNjBxNisThpFUKGYAu63xzdG/xuxgvafDXQ1BoOPvyP/4X1KrNQwm3IEwnpDS 2wUSUjahPZg5i08ueUSsSCM+b6v/7PwOaF8ALsH6SUWTrpLcp3JLvXtRoiCcHjd1aFrU sYPREtYFsX4fKZQwQFsFevZDfLHPXyAa5a0fZgP1AcHhlda4foLXdR9CXJGRvsNJAdT6 fUMg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.23.200 with SMTP id rb8mr3805657bkb.73.1373336039769; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:13:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51f7f573-e4a6-4349-ae50-21de7780ed8c@googlegroups.com> References: <51f7f573-e4a6-4349-ae50-21de7780ed8c@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: the general development using Python From: Joel Goldstick To: ajetrumpet@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30364073cf06b904e10ab6b8 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373342841 news.xs4all.nl 15942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45965 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50190 --20cf30364073cf06b904e10ab6b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM, wrote: > all, > > I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials. I have > worked with Python very little and I'm well aware of the fact that it is a > lower-level language that integrates with the shell. > > I came from a VB legacy background and I've already "un-learned" > everything that I need to (I know, that language stinks, and isn't OOP or > even useful!). > > I have to get back into writing Python but I'm lacking one thing ... a > general understanding of how to write applications that can be deployed > (either in .exe format or in other formats). > > So my issue is basically to understand how to go about writing programs > and compiling them so they can be deployed to less tech-savvy people. > Here's what I think I have to do, in a general sense: > > => Pick a GUI and just run through the tutorials to learn the interfaces > as fast as possible. > > This is all fine and dandy, but more than likely when I do this the people > that I am sending solutions to will, if not receiving a simple .exe file, > receive the package from me and say to themselves "what in the world do I > do with this!?" > > Is there anyway you guys would suggest that I fix this or help them deal > with complex languages like Python and programs written with it? > > thanks guys. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Why do you want to use python? It isn't a language that can be packaged as an executable. Who are these people who you make software for who need to have a single file? -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com --20cf30364073cf06b904e10ab6b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM, <ajetrumpet@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
all,

I am unhappy with the general Python documentation and tutorials. =C2=A0I h= ave worked with Python very little and I'm well aware of the fact that = it is a lower-level language that integrates with the shell.

I came from a VB legacy background and I've already "un-learned&qu= ot; everything that I need to (I know, that language stinks, and isn't = OOP or even useful!).

I have to get back into writing Python but I'm lacking one thing ... a = general understanding of how to write applications that can be deployed (ei= ther in .exe format or in other formats).

So my issue is basically to understand how to go about writing programs and= compiling them so they can be deployed to less tech-savvy people. =C2=A0He= re's what I think I have to do, in a general sense:

=3D> Pick a GUI and just run through the tutorials to learn the interfac= es as fast as possible.

This is all fine and dandy, but more than likely when I do this the people = that I am sending solutions to will, if not receiving a simple .exe file, r= eceive the package from me and say to themselves "what in the world do= I do with this!?"

Is there anyway you guys would suggest that I fix this or help them deal wi= th complex languages like Python and programs written with it?

thanks guys.
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Why d= o you want to use python?=C2=A0 It isn't a language that can be package= d as an executable.=C2=A0 Who are these people who you make software for wh= o need to have a single file?

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