Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; '1996,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'spec': 0.09; '1992.': 0.16; '6:56': 0.16; 'drink,': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'planes': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'unicode,': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; 'nearly': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'along.': 0.31; 'microsoft,': 0.31; 'ago': 0.33; 'beginning': 0.33; 'programmers': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'being': 0.38; 'depends': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'according': 0.40; 'release': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'company': 0.60; 'dave': 0.60; 'till': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'range': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'jul': 0.74; 'glad': 0.83; 'measure.': 0.84; 'working,': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dave Angel Subject: Re: hex dump w/ or w/out utf-8 chars Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:45:46 -0400 References: <7b6fc645-8bf3-4681-821c-38fb1fa1d191@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.32.174.33 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373323563 news.xs4all.nl 15882 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41118 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50182 On 07/08/2013 05:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Dave Angel wrote: >> But Unicode has nothing to do with Guido, and it has existed for about 25 >> years (if I recall correctly). > > Depends how you measure. According to [1], the work kinda began back > then (25 years ago being 1988), but it wasn't till 1991/92 that the > spec was published. Also, the full Unicode range with multiple planes > came about in 1996, with Unicode 2.0, so that could also be considered > the beginning of Unicode. But that still means it's nearly old enough > to drink, so programmers ought to be aware of it. > Well, then I'm glad I stuck the qualifier on it. I remember where I was working, and that company folded in 1992. I was working on NT long before its official release in 1993, and it used Unicode, even if the spec was sliding along. I'm sure I got unofficial versions of things through Microsoft, at the time. -- DaveA