Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.109.133.81.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.085 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; '1996,': 0.09; 'spec': 0.09; '6:56': 0.16; 'drink,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'planes': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'unicode': 0.24; 'nearly': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'ago': 0.33; 'beginning': 0.33; 'programmers': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'depends': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'according': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'dave': 0.60; 'till': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'range': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'jul': 0.74; 'measure.': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pmXhJSGnY4vqGv2ZBM+s86CONUg99GqnJQxSU19myfg=; b=bPp7mVbjx+0TGGfMDX4OcuGv8ysFGYHVvKq3SL569+pHkHjdMnsf7XS8c9pSy6ffOE grQYqCvZTdlHc1fP7eZAYGGMXRoEh3azk2mARmDchmriJHJ6P+yirW+6wUCl6qFV1DFM EkhwIbQmBSHuBSPJPyGtyqkMgb1fJtX0hhgcVnBBQ4HPsdc1T09KFDLizOW6FkeEwiy9 NhUHZ00sGW252eTV+KdMEDBAKAIiVfr/mXIjrOfETW3q5o97D5MxH5PPrXkI2zDlKM6m EXT4Lg2GLlKvNw9KMCChvpWnj0YcvfOC0JEKjyjarkNZzIz5L8o5zLlDgWyhe3IPy31j uoFA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.120.77 with SMTP id la13mr12523681vdb.23.1373320185974; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:49:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7b6fc645-8bf3-4681-821c-38fb1fa1d191@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:49:45 +1000 Subject: Re: hex dump w/ or w/out utf-8 chars From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373320188 news.xs4all.nl 15867 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60185 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50179 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > But Unicode has nothing to do with Guido, and it has existed for about 25 > years (if I recall correctly). Depends how you measure. According to [1], the work kinda began back then (25 years ago being 1988), but it wasn't till 1991/92 that the spec was published. Also, the full Unicode range with multiple planes came about in 1996, with Unicode 2.0, so that could also be considered the beginning of Unicode. But that still means it's nearly old enough to drink, so programmers ought to be aware of it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode#History ChrisA