Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'none:': 0.07; 'variables': 0.07; 'namespace': 0.09; 'stealing': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; 'closure.': 0.16; 'dictionary,': 0.16; 'foo():': 0.16; 'personally,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'creating': 0.23; 'skip:i 40': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'this:': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'skip:@ 10': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; 'inspect': 0.31; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'yield': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'skip:i 50': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'july': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'reads': 0.68; 'jul': 0.74; '2:30': 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; 'do:': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=lbDjHWH5H4Baa4pGisezmFtbRRXLJVnb2mMJORIQSrQ=; b=Y9+aTscolbAlwN6ztUgPCIm0e3xXkbZmKxK4EfWtMOHGaUPnk/BdqTIoQ7xnlo6mr8 5f0gp8mlY+mv92nmW/sRdotwBh6HjNP8yKVs62n9WCUSgtdG0K5HqUbrPBHlPE5+R2uS kLOKJVPr9FPXAEKV0D09RvlTuge0xN41jroSbDsvCxwXNn7sH8qw5cpbub4ROP2M9w0D 9sJwU55rCHFwWuOkcYI4t5qiYz7WkYndXDIcYB9tdaY9JtlDe0GXGVLZKhv91wz3rvHo ro7Y9L45DxdeuwgJoxCQv0G3O35tUsO4c1JXiKz6hgz10XScf4xA1Jt2nRpKWj0met13 wKZQ== X-Received: by 10.112.170.166 with SMTP id an6mr11213973lbc.22.1373302736912; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <51d4eb9c$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Joshua Landau Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:58:16 +0100 Subject: Re: Default scope of variables To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 73 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373302745 news.xs4all.nl 15886 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50761 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50161 On 4 July 2013 05:36, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Joshua Landau > wrote: >> That said, I'm not too convinced. Personally, the proper way to do >> what you are talking about is creating a new closure. Like: >> >> for i in range(100): >> with new_scope(): >> for i in range(100): >> func(i) >> func(i) # Using i from original loop >> >> But it's not like Python'll ever support that. >> > > def foo(): > for i in range(3): > print("outer",i) > def inner(): > for i in range(4): > print("inner",i) > inner() > print("outer",i) > > That works, but you then have to declare all your nonlocals, and it > hardly reads well. Stealing concepts shamelessly from http://www.slideshare.net/r1chardj0n3s/dont-do-this-24000445, you can do this: import inspect from contextlib import contextmanager @contextmanager def scope(namespace=None): old_names = inspect.currentframe().f_back.f_back.f_locals.copy() yield names = inspect.currentframe().f_back.f_back.f_locals if namespace is not None: new_names = {k:v for k, v in names.items() if k not in old_names and v is not namespace} namespace.update(**new_names) names.clear() names.update(old_names) So you *can* do: >>> for i in range(3): ... with scope(): ... for i in range(3): ... print("Inner:", i) ... print("Outer", i) Inner: 0 Inner: 1 Inner: 2 Outer 0 Inner: 0 Inner: 1 Inner: 2 Outer 1 Inner: 0 Inner: 1 Inner: 2 Outer 2 :) If you pass scope() a dictionary, all the new variables will get added to it.