Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: alex wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Python is an Equal Opportunity Programming Language Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:20:35 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <572D0783.5050707@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 0Xlv+Ck8EHNtcfxbgEJaPg4vbBdJLmPTAKPOHMB7m1TA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.051 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'friday,': 0.07; 'keynote': 0.07; 'answering': 0.09; 'email addr:python.org>': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'django': 0.13; '2016': 0.16; 'email addr:python.org>': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'subject:Programming': 0.16; 'wrote:on': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'alternate': 0.18; '>': 0.18; 'skip:* 50': 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'said,': 0.27; 'men': 0.29; 'shirt': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'getting': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'women': 0.33; 'conference': 0.34; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'equal': 0.34; 'skip:& 20': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'asking': 0.35; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'system.': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'questions': 0.40; 'term': 0.60; 'skip:n 10': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'necessarily': 0.63; 'between': 0.65; 'girls': 0.66; 'python-list': 0.66; 'email name:python- list': 0.67; 'hearing': 0.67; 'day': 0.67; 'choose': 0.68; 'groups.': 0.72; 'nonprofit': 0.84; 'utc-4,': 0.84; 'apparent': 0.91; 'ethan': 0.91; 'furman': 0.91; 'male': 0.93; 'quota': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=bEZsHcUOkzSBxD8NUaw6fr2xGKbFMR3TCsMeMx0D7jM=; b=vdkc7EveqzvkKsi7wyzeXbWzf3qfjr7/TB2S8oXV9nKWNVcc8Mcqadytb288jqOhUg lJ63NPnskA92B94YvEBgPeH6N7wvXQnD/eQrJqIQDljNkIv3HZX2yeIBnaCFzq84CRrd z0EOxabmQ2os5FNMQmi5jf+Vp3q1Wm55Bg5Fh0XvWe0NyxunMuvduF8dLUUbumX3G/nS EP89HOqviaiFxmN4HSz4wH5ixCiemA3fIDG5CRkM1+6WZlq7PlZvgYyW4kRNZWglWmMb 2dBVIsVMfrCjWZdnrt0Y+kOsjeA2jlyPvQROi0zIaDhOHdMmWGVbuHfBLCWECoE/Y6yU NNfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=bEZsHcUOkzSBxD8NUaw6fr2xGKbFMR3TCsMeMx0D7jM=; b=GBOVMFhIQ79dSM0AMyi2QIP4ObvpLcPE77vEHbb86hxRDSSJ7cVrjk7wHkyRrab724 4o0yq0UFE9hv3GdogowRZAlnxEVDnB0TtoSnUPKaygeEcZCqw2os6nVpiJ6mi6qjrnFH 8FMEvpsJPeKwKgplmYB1O+kGqANgFuot77/IAUbTIIQ+l57XFpUi6quxPj395hDR11jD EHPWppSAavokhR4BMkrh88zrVEB8Ow92CmNObiDejHqS9UohPFwj1apuprDtAgZ3e3Ii cDx9ILlOV4Tmag1IRft9wlYvc9C3TYH2SXxqIHTQnENp1m1em5GaerlYcd2Gtnm0Iy7J Ht/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUfS3YLZnD/pook9EAGjG/YLr2vCZMg3r3BLndz3JF0cgc37tnMd+IE5ltgO/e8dETJPFu9OiULMwTO+Q== X-Received: by 10.50.143.1 with SMTP id sa1mr6367igb.20.1462573235296; Fri, 06 May 2016 15:20:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <572D0783.5050707@stoneleaf.us> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108241 It seems like it would be equal opportunity between sexes. 1:1 opportunity to ask based on apparent sex. It is not equal representation necessarily. On May 6, 2016 5:53 PM, "beliavsky--- via Python-list" < python-list@python.org> wrote: > On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 5:07:28 PM UTC-4, Ethan Furman wrote: > > On 05/06/2016 01:35 PM, beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote: > > > > > Most of [Guido's] keynote at that conference was answering questions > from > > > the people who had attended. And he actually said, "Let's alternate > > between > > > men and women asking questions."On the second day of the conference, > > he was > > > wearing a shirt from PyLadies, another nonprofit like Django Girls > > that helps > > > women learn how to program on Python. > > > > > > ********************************************************* > > > > > > This not "equal opportunity". It is a quota system. > > > > It's a corrective action, a way of getting men accustomed to listening > > to women and hearing good ideas and questions from them, and a way to > > accustom women to speaking in (currently) male dominated groups. > > It's silly to say that just because a group is over-represented that it > "dominates". If a conference has more Asians than whites does that > necessarily make it Asian-dominated? > > > And it is far more equal opportunity than having 25 males ask questions > > and only one or two females. > > Not if there are 25 males with questions and only one or two females with > questions. Among the people who have questions, you could choose randomly. > You and Terry Reedy misuse the term "equal opportunity". > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >