Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.088 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.01; 'logic': 0.09; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'ideal.': 0.16; 'magic': 0.16; 'nest': 0.16; 'wayne': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'work,': 0.20; 'this:': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'statement': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'this.': 0.32; 'skip:d 20': 0.34; 'transaction': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'though,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'back': 0.62; 'kind': 0.63; 'jul': 0.74; "'with'": 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uFVA2UhcuD6mr3R/5GpZ7Nobmh7MX1Xz6EpRTtN1e9k=; b=GZcet8zdGSMF/nQNJGFgvoCjpQa6alZlxoEdsFnqGZGHy4z6fo9a4/CtbGZ1+SjUV9 Yk7mPCZ7oe/muIzSwXjwoHqF6sY1O5PQRClwn1eZoNStWd0s5E67Tji4pGi/xGqdEyny 5tHly1Lt3rjTdJgvHTHJrTR1WsRhTTNoSWTgP9A4ZqTzoqVXuURtsW4ChCxT99UxgDcd K3x2pfAJ4cXDTXuypH8qN/0sMZnvPJgLgrQa8K+PmhEjYrfSxvtwg9HWuWSUNUtTUapC m5wJOtq/oUEE7ArgKsSEa0WwtY4BOWiS1EYwCWG2deBomEqqvJsnl39SJjYOgPyhGEf4 kHKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.187.4 with SMTP id fo4mr11765552vec.55.1373204604494; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 06:43:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51d4eb9c$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d508ed$0$6512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d5a504$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 23:43:24 +1000 Subject: Re: Default scope of variables From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373204606 news.xs4all.nl 15975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46382 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50102 On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Wayne Werner wrote: > Which you would then use like: > > > conn = create_conn() > with new_transaction(conn) as tran: > rows_affected = do_query_stuff(tran) > if rows_affected == 42: > tran.commit() Yep. There's a problem, though, when you bring in subtransactions. The logic wants to be like this: with new_transaction(conn) as tran: tran.query("blah") with tran.subtransaction() as tran: tran.query("blah") with tran.subtransaction() as tran: tran.query("blah") # roll this subtransaction back tran.query("blah") tran.commit() tran.query("blah") tran.commit() The 'with' statement doesn't allow this. I would need to use some kind of magic to rebind the old transaction to the name, or else use a list that gets magically populated: with new_transaction(conn) as tran: tran[-1].query("blah") with subtransaction(tran): tran[-1].query("blah") with subtransaction(tran): tran[-1].query("blah") # roll this subtransaction back tran[-1].query("blah") tran[-1].commit() tran[-1].query("blah") tran[-1].commit() I don't like the look of this. It might work, but it's hardly ideal. This is why I like to be able to nest usages of the same name. ChrisA