Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.192 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.66; '*S*': 0.04; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'subject:features': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'emacs,': 0.16; 'rsi': 0.16; 'think?': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'size,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'user.': 0.19; 'skip': 0.24; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'text': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'beyond': 0.35; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'subject:]': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'further': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'subject:Important': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'sample': 0.67; 'funny': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; 'assertion.': 0.84; 'fourth': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'suffer': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=s8Wdd/vZJ+WKYOe4lxtxEQJft/MueG9pdUWtFNFDj68=; b=rUCBeymi9tqspQuS4sDUqGDWscPMLuRdW3S2zTtpLqpQ/nA5D2tSC5vPAkCyatqzg0 +pSROIMAjB8BePS94d1cPXcvfV1tHBr63sph6JiRZvj/VgoxgbemAgzbIZHSD39d8ieo wKMmPShfsiVi7l3FEJ6oR+ROkXYGnIlG47x8U7gbjptFRaftIn6Wcca/zvYV6JpjxIxi vDas8hGlCsLUxSScnkZY6ak3VhNcPc6q3gy1Rx8y4PCeMyWcvr4KIPGpNNae3yiIhiba 96LSvfqVtLuw0UwzaA62LTKxl5SCx2FqEmen1M0qrdXWhSkFWdnuC/zbX1cxCiZbhJWA 9utw== X-Received: by 10.68.29.2 with SMTP id f2mr14150040pbh.184.1373125199455; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 08:39:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7e41e80c-8a83-4b4c-8839-93705c6b3f7a@googlegroups.com> References: <7e41e80c-8a83-4b4c-8839-93705c6b3f7a@googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 09:39:19 -0600 Subject: Re: Editor Ergonomics [was: Important features for editors] To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373125209 news.xs4all.nl 15974 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45304 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:50069 On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, rusi wrote: > On Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> > The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that >> > emacs' ergonomics is not right. >> >> Kind of a small sample size, don't you think? Hopefully we can kill >> this meme that Emacs is somehow worse for your wrists than other text >> editors before it goes any further than your one unsupported >> assertion. > > Not beyond small sample but beyond singleton: > http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs_hand_pain_celebrity.html Funny that although that list claims a focus on emacs, the fourth person on the list is a vi user. The upshot here is that people who use keyboards a lot often suffer from RSI. You can't just link it to a particular editor on the basis of a few anecdotes.