Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'received:134': 0.05; 'subject:editor': 0.05; 'c++,': 0.07; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.09; 'php,': 0.09; 'programmers.': 0.09; 'ssh': 0.09; 'syntax': 0.12; '(multiple': 0.16; 'emacs': 0.16; 'emacs,': 0.16; 'highlighting': 0.16; 'justify': 0.16; 'maybe,': 0.16; 'subject:IDE': 0.16; 'once,': 0.19; 'writes:': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; 'code': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'issue,': 0.23; "i'm": 0.26; 'chris': 0.27; 'developing': 0.28; 'employer': 0.29; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'time;': 0.31; "can't": 0.31; 'weeks': 0.32; 'bit': 0.33; 'using': 0.34; 'open': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'gnu': 0.35; 'subject:/': 0.36; 'think': 0.36; 'else': 0.37; 'bill': 0.37; 'but': 0.38; 'languages': 0.38; 'pretty': 0.38; 'reasonable': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'current': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'here,': 0.39; 'comments': 0.39; 'received:de': 0.39; 'how': 0.39; 'subject:text': 0.40; 'would': 0.40; "it's": 0.40; 'learn': 0.60; 'plus': 0.65; 'learned': 0.73; 'investment': 0.77; '(over': 0.84; 'make,': 0.84; 'mastering': 0.84 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,224,1301868000"; d="scan'208";a="106907127" From: Andrea Crotti To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: Python IDE/text-editor References: <1302964745.2751.3.camel@cristian-desktop> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:32:28 +0200 In-reply-to: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1302971551 news.xs4all.nl 41102 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:33523 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3333 Chris Angelico writes: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the same features that the OP > was requesting (multiple files open at once, etc), plus I like syntax > highlighting (multiple languages necessary - I'm often developing > simultaneously in C++, Pike, PHP, and gnu make, as well as Python). > > My current "main editors" are SciTE when I have a GUI, and nano when I > don't (over ssh and such). Mastering emacs would definitely take time; > I'm not really sure if I can justify it ("Chris, what did you achieve > this week?" "I learned how to get emacs to make coffee.")... > > Chris Angelico That of course is an issue, but since you code in many languages I think is really a pretty good investment for your future. And I don't think that you would be unproductive the first weeks with emacs, just a bit slower maybe, and it's not that you can't use anything else in the meanwhile...