Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'attempting': 0.04; 'flags': 0.05; 'scripts': 0.09; '>>>>': 0.09; 'either.': 0.09; 'freebsd,': 0.09; 'subject:Python3': 0.09; 'too).': 0.09; 'toss': 0.09; 'variants': 0.09; 'extensions': 0.15; '(among': 0.16; '-- rich': 0.16; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'binaries': 0.16; 'macosx': 0.16; 'macosx,': 0.16; 'netbsd,': 0.16; 'tarball': 0.16; 'things)': 0.16; 'trivially': 0.16; 'url:trunk': 0.16; 'vmware': 0.16; '\xa0in': 0.16; '\xa0while': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'arguments': 0.18; 'rapidly': 0.18; 'jan': 0.19; 'this?': 0.19; "aren't": 0.21; 'linux,': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'figure': 0.23; 'works.': 0.23; 'up.': 0.25; "i'm": 0.26; 'tried': 0.27; 'asking': 0.28; 'url:mailman': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'pm,': 0.29; 'config': 0.30; 'fails,': 0.30; 'python3': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'source': 0.31; "didn't": 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'done,': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'pretty': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'it.': 0.34; 'richard': 0.34; 'received:209.85.212': 0.34; 'away.': 0.34; 'minutes,': 0.34; 'root': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'sets': 0.35; 'apply': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.36; 'file': 0.36; 'disk': 0.37; 'like,': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'using': 0.38; 'largely': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'url:org': 0.39; 'should': 0.39; 'goes': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'packages': 0.40; 'download': 0.60; 'hours': 0.60; 'kind': 0.61; 'full': 0.62; 'order': 0.62; 'afraid': 0.63; 'manager.': 0.64; 'grab': 0.66; 'here:': 0.66; '2012': 0.67; 'price': 0.77; '"where"': 0.84; '13:03': 0.84; 'edition.': 0.84; 'notably,': 0.84; 'patches.': 0.84; 'snapshots': 0.84 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F0237A9.2010801@googlemail.com> References: <4F0237A9.2010801@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:23:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Python3 on MacOsX Lion? From: Benjamin Kaplan To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mpv1.tis.cwru.edu) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 91 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325557391 news.xs4all.nl 6890 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53966 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18364 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi Rich! > Why don't you ask the maintainer who built the macport?! > Why don't you try to to figure out with "WHAT" kind of tools they have bu= ilt > the mac port and "WHERE" to get them either. And ask him also how to set = the > flags to build the 64bit edition. > > Then you don't have to be afraid of any prebuild mac port editions. This = is > how I would do it. > > Tamer > That's not quite how Macports works. Macports is a package manager. Each package has a port file with (among other things) 1) A location to download the source tarball 2) A list of patches to apply 3) A list of dependencies 4) Sets of config arguments and build scripts for different variants Richard, if something goes wrong with Macports, nuking /opt/local does a pretty good job of cleaning it up. And even if you don't want to use Macports, you can still grab their patches. They're all here: http://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/lang/python32. You can dig through the portfile to see what patches and config flags they're using to build it. > > Am 02.01.2012 22:23, schrieb K Richard Pixley: >> >> On 1/2/12 13:03 , Benjamin Kaplan wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, K Richard Pixley =A0wrot= e: >>>> >>>> Where would I look to find the current expected status of python3 on >>>> MacOsX >>>> Lion? >>>> >>>> The distributed binaries aren't capable of allowing extensions that us= e >>>> gcc. >>>> >>>> I can build the source naked, but then it lacks some libraries, notabl= y, >>>> readline. >>>> >>>> Attempting to build the full Mac packages fails, even with the few tin= y >>>> patches I used for 2.7.2. >>>> >>>> Is anyone working on this? =A0Are there pre-release patches available? >>>> >>>> Should I be asking elsewhere? >>>> >>>> --rich >>>> -- >>> >>> >>> Have you tried building through Macports? >> >> >> No, I haven't. =A0Macports scares me. =A0When I tried them, or fink, in = the >> past, they rapidly polluted my boot disk and I didn't have any way to >> unpollute it other than reloading from scratch. >> >> In freebsd, netbsd, or any of the linux distributions, I can trivially >> create a virtual machine in about 20 minutes, screw with it as I like, a= nd >> toss it in seconds. =A0In modern linux, I can create a root file system = with >> btrfs, snapshot, chroot to the snapshot and munge away. When I'm done, I= can >> just toss the snapshot. =A0(Can do snapshots in vmware too). >> >> If I screw up my boot drive in MacOsX, I'm in for hours of recovery time >> reloading from Time Machine. =A0While that's a lot better than it used t= o be >> now that Time Machine is available, (reloading can now be done largely >> unattended), it's not a price I'm willing to pay in order to attempt to = use >> Macports. >> >> --rich > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list