Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'resulting': 0.04; 'correct.': 0.07; 'found,': 0.07; 'setup.': 0.07; 'cursor': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'gui': 0.12; 'wrote': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '(something': 0.16; 'complaining': 0.16; 'hardware.': 0.16; 'implemented,': 0.16; 'mardi': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'slow,': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'win7': 0.16; '\xe9crit': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'this?': 0.23; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'tend': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'task': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'subject:please': 0.30; 'then.': 0.30; 'waste': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; "skip:' 10": 0.31; '"do': 0.31; '(my': 0.31; '100000': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'service,': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'hundreds': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'like,': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'application': 0.37; 'too': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'window': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'obtain': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'simple,': 0.60; 'issues,': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'occur': 0.65; 'virus': 0.65; 'life': 0.66; 'due': 0.66; 'normal.': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; '"not': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'subject:want': 0.91; 'subject:answer': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:33:48 +0000 References: <9f5d28ce-504d-40db-baa2-ff3699ab05c7@googlegroups.com> <52AE4A86.8040402@arcor.de> <52AE86E5.70409@gmail.com> <20131217160039.eba12a87ca9cd0a8fbd4fb14@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-168-13.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 79 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387308843 news.xs4all.nl 2977 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52137 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62232 On 17/12/2013 19:00, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > Le mardi 17 décembre 2013 19:06:35 UTC+1, Michael Torrie a écrit : >> On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> >>>> Python is sooooooo slow when it waits for the human. >> >>> >> >>> With Windows systems, I waste something like 90% of my work time waiting >> >>> for that system to stop "Not Responding". >> >>> >> >>> And no, it's not a matter of hardware. >> >> >> >> Something is wrong then. Windows has its issues, and it does slow down >> >> over time as cruft in the system accumulates. And Windows XP is getting >> >> slower and slower due to a bug in the automatic updates service, but in >> >> general, but your experience with Windows is not normal. I managed >> >> hundreds of Windows workstations in my previous life and I did not see >> >> this occur with any regularity. So something is wrong with your setup. >> >> Maybe its time for a re-install? Virus or malware? Or maybe you need >> >> to upgrade to Windows 7? > > > > I tend to agree with you. However, I should say > I'm observing a strange phenomenon. > > Among others, I wrote two interactive interpreters > with PySide 1.1.2 for Python 3.3 and Python 3.2. > > If I'm runing such a task with Py3.2 (more than a minute) > >>>> timeit.timeit("a = '\u2345'*100000; 'x' in a") > > it runs smoothly. > > but if I run the same task with Py3.3 > > my window seems to be idled, and a message like, > Ne répond pas (something like "Do no respond") > appeares in the title bar of the window (my application > title + that msg). The cursor get transformed into the > win7 "waiting cursor". > > The app seems to freeze, but in fact, it is not and > the resulting values are correct. > > How do I know this? Very simple, the resulting > values are in exact concordance with the values > I obtain with my interactive intepreters, but > built with tkinter! > > jmf > Have I understood this correctly? Your users are using a GUI that you've designed and implemented, they type in 100000 identical characters and then search linearly for a single character that they know can't possibly be found, and then they are complaining that their systems are too slow, yes? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence