Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.060 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.01; 'broken': 0.04; 'windows,': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; '"web': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'garbage': 0.16; 'interpreted.': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'frameworks': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'subject:please': 0.30; 'running': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'surely': 0.36; 'web,': 0.36; 'application': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'subject: ': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'productivity': 0.74; 'barrels': 0.84; 'fat': 0.84; 'leak': 0.84; 'pray': 0.84; 'subject:want': 0.91; 'numerous': 0.93; 'subject:answer': 0.95 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:13:23 -0700 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. References: <9f5d28ce-504d-40db-baa2-ff3699ab05c7@googlegroups.com> <65658b65-7f84-4dfa-ad6e-b0c53273aabe@googlegroups.com> <20131217160023.b84e44626eeabc23ccfbf8d2@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20131217160023.b84e44626eeabc23ccfbf8d2@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387304032 news.xs4all.nl 2933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51708 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62227 On 12/17/2013 08:00 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> Please check JYTHON and those ready-for-novice GUI tools in java. > > All Java GUI frameworks I know of are ridiculous garbage. > > Not only that Java per se is obscenely fat (and unresponsive), but the > GUI frameworks leak like bottomless barrels and the look and feel is so > hideous that I would say from personal experience with numerous Java > applications that there is little that's worse for user productivity > than a Java application running on Windows. Well, a "web application" > might top it. Pray tell is there anything that is not ridiculous garbage or is your computer so hopelessly broken that everything fails on it? You've already dissed on Windows, Firefox, the web, Java. Surely Python must suck also because it's slow and interpreted.