Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'amounts': 0.07; 'found,': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'developer': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '(do': 0.16; 'leaks': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'task.': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'memory': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'days,': 0.24; 'tend': 0.24; 'java': 0.24; 'developers': 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'statement': 0.30; 'subject:please': 0.30; 'probably': 0.32; 'critical': 0.32; 'actual': 0.34; 'core': 0.34; 'c++': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'operating': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'subject: ': 0.61; 'received:173': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; '"just': 0.84; 'end-user': 0.84; 'horrible': 0.84; 'leak': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'attitude': 0.91; 'subject:want': 0.91; 'subject:answer': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: GUI:-please answer want to learn GUI programming in python , how should i proceed. Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:11:58 -0500 References: <9f5d28ce-504d-40db-baa2-ff3699ab05c7@googlegroups.com> <52AE4A86.8040402@arcor.de> <20131217160751.0a902cd1ac2deb96247ebfc6@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <20131217160751.0a902cd1ac2deb96247ebfc6@gmx.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387303935 news.xs4all.nl 2894 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49983 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:62226 On 12/17/2013 10:07 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > On an actual operating system, the attitude of the developers (do they > actually care or just don't give a darn) is *the* critical issue for > end-user productivity. If a developer makes a statement such as > of "just get a faster computer" or "just get more RAM", then (s)he > probably doesn't give darn. C++ applications, just like Java > applications, tend to leak horrible amounts of memory these days, just > because the vendors/developers don't care. I'll note that Python core developers do care about memory leaks. At least one module is tested for memory leaks in a nightly task. When found, leaks are patched. -- Terry Jan Reedy