Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Grant Edwards Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: After a year using Node.js, the prodigal son returns Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5729b9d8$0$1612$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <572C0629.6030509@gmail.com> X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 40je7UdPnsMXg9mQtTMntQ1M9RGnjAeBSzbIo+KjlTnw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'javascript,': 0.07; 'php.': 0.07; 'php,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:qwest.net': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; '2016': 0.16; 'batteries': 0.16; 'frankly': 0.16; 'oddly': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:son': 0.16; 'url:talks': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'libraries': 0.22; 'noted': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'written': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'external': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'bad.': 0.29; 'correct,': 0.29; 'really,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'michael': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'library.': 0.35; 'expected': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'lines': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'missing': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'front': 0.38; 'stuff': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'decided': 0.66; 'sounds': 0.76; 'gavin': 0.84; 'subject:After': 0.84; 'twelve': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91; 'reasoning': 0.91; 'try.': 0.91; 'hundred': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.2 (Linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5729b9d8$0$1612$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <572C0629.6030509@gmail.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108225 On 2016-05-06, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 05/04/2016 02:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> A year ago, Gavin Vickery decided to move away from Python and give >>> Javascript with Node.js a try. Twelve months later, he has written about his >>> experiences: >>> >>> >>> http://geekforbrains.com/post/after-a-year-of-nodejs-in-production >> >> Very interesting. Frankly Javascript sounds awful. Even on the front end. > > https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript > > JavaScript is terrible. Really, really bad. And because of that, it > has the potential to sweep the world. If your reasoning is correct, it'll never be able to overtake PHP. I've never written anything over a hundred or two lines in JavaScript, but for small stuff it seems OK -- though as others have noted there are some oddly missing batteries that result in use of a lot of small external libraries for things that any C, PHP, or Python user would have expected to be in the standard library. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I'm wearing PAMPERS!! at gmail.com