Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'arguments': 0.05; 'parameter': 0.05; 'python': 0.08; 'foo': 0.09; 'nameerror:': 0.09; 'object.': 0.09; 'subject:parameters': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'defined': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.15; '[])': 0.16; 'executed.': 0.16; 'object,': 0.16; '>>>': 0.16; 'def': 0.16; '(i.e.': 0.17; 'marc': 0.19; '(most': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'trying': 0.23; 'optional': 0.23; 'traceback': 0.25; 'statement': 0.25; 'function': 0.26; "i'm": 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'sun,': 0.30; 'thanks': 0.30; 'hi,': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'values': 0.31; 'list': 0.33; 'does': 0.33; 'actually': 0.33; 'received:209.85.160': 0.34; 'however,': 0.34; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.34; 'creates': 0.34; 'executable': 0.35; 'last):': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'define': 0.35; 'file': 0.36; 'functions.': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'takes': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; '26,': 0.67; 'jun': 0.67; "'foo'": 0.84; 'subject:value': 0.84 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2a25a54a-c60b-4811-9c6a-97c7f717dccb@hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <2a25a54a-c60b-4811-9c6a-97c7f717dccb@hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:21:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Default value for optional parameters unexpected behaviour? From: Benjamin Kaplan To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/49, host=mpv1.tis.cwru.edu X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020206.4E0786D4.008E,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=209.85.160.54, so=2010-12-23 16:51:53, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1309116126 news.xs4all.nl 4361 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:33523 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8481 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to define a function that has an optional parameter which > should be an empty list whenever it isn't given. However, it takes as > value the same value as the last time the function was executed. What > is the reason of this behaviour? How does python deal with default > values (i.e. when are they assigned/created)? > > Thanks :) > So the thing about Python is that you don't actually declare functions. You create them. def is an executable statement that creates a function object. Default arguments are part of the function object, so they get evaluated when the function is created. >>> foo Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in NameError: name 'foo' is not defined >>> def foo(a = []) : ... a.append(1) ... >>> foo.func_defaults ([],) >>> foo() >>> foo.func_defaults ([1],) >>>